French Army Change Route After Turkey Ban

French state aircraft and warships are no longer using Turkish airspace and territorial waters after permission requests in three different cases were rejected by the Turkish government, France's top diplomat in Ankara said amid the ongoing spat over a French law penalizing the denial of Armenian genocide.

"Our requests [for an aircraft and two warships] have been rejected, so we are no longer issuing such requests. We are using alternative routes," France's Ambassador to Turkey Laurent Bili told the private news channel CNN Türk in an interview.

Bili said the first rejection was a request for a French military aircraft that wanted to use Turkish airspace on its way to France from Afghanistan. Similarly, two French warships were not allowed to enter Turkish territorial waters recently. Turkey's move against the French military was part of sanctions imposed against France after the adoption of the law at French Parliament late December last year.

Though enough numbers of lawmakers and senators were collected to take the law to the Constitutional Council for possible annulment, Bili's words revealed the process was not an easy one.
"There was such an atmosphere [in Ankara] that necessitated my return to France," Bili said, adding that the Turkish reaction against the move was a surprise for many French people, but did not affect Turkey's image in the country.

"France attaches great importance to its relationship with Turkey. We need to be calm. The law is not aimed against Turkey […] The number of Armenians living in France is 10 times more than the number of Armenians in Turkey," he said. "They have become a part of French history. I understand how sensitive issues are concerning ancestors, but cutting off ties is not a good idea."

The French Constitutional Council must conclude its study on the law by Feb. 29 if the government does not demand the speeding up of the process and give its verdict in eight days. If it does not embrace the law, the council will either fully reject the law or will demand a partial amendment. In both cases, the legislative process will have to start from scratch.

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looks like Yorktown will be going to war pretty soon

GODPEED LAD

Maybe it will remind them of how they refused out pilots permission to fly over France when we bombed Qhaddafi. They were just waiting to do it themselves to steal Lybian oil and they have done it now.

Armenia breeds some beautiful women. LTK, I think you should explore this area. Pippin knows these things.

The arrogant fronch believe they have the right to interfere in the internal affairs of other nations. Fuck them.

but the French heroes are going to make it anyway!

in order to run away from Afghanistan they can even go through Australia

I feel hurt when martsy the most valiant man on earth call our soldiers cowards.

I simply can't help noticing a sad pattern in French soldiers' behavior.

It's both sad and ridiculous. Something bad happened with French... dignity after the World War I. A huge mental crisis. Sad.

And it is ridiculous as your buffoon politicians cover it up with grandiose hypocrisy.

You send soldiers to Afghanistan hoping they will not fight... and then, when enemy kills a couple of them... you run away leaving your allies in the battlefield.

And you expect you will be treated seriously?

Turkey should invade france. And since they are both technically out NATO allies we can even the score by bombing whoever wins.

ibigmang wrote:

Turkey should invade france. And since they are both technically out NATO allies we can even the score by bombing whoever wins.

It's normal for US to support Turkey. It's a key position in a strategic area. Americans don't follow standards like Europeans. We believe in civilisation, friendship, honour, oath, etc. US will support a country only for its very own interests.

It's pathological, the US still supports countries like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. Which respectively turned a blind eye on the financial network of a bellicose organisation and hosted his key figure for some months or years like a refugee.

Damn, I would die being an American ! It must suck to be you.

You're joking right? france is a nation of whores, nothing more.

ibigmang wrote:

You're joking right? france is a nation of whores, nothing more.

No, I am not joking.

US foreign aid for Pakistan 2,853.50 millions USD FY2010.

Sorry about Saudi Arabia, they are not receiving any aids from US.

martsy wrote:


You send soldiers to Afghanistan hoping they will not fight... and then, when enemy kills a couple of them... you run away leaving your allies in the battlefield.

And you expect you will be treated seriously?

You live in a cave? People got even more angry at the afghanistan war because the French soldiers were killed by "allied" afghan soldiers not because they were killed by talibans.

Btw not dealing with pakistan, a big US ally, the only way to beat the talibans for good is a big fuck you from the USA to its allies in afghanistan.

ibigmang wrote:

You're joking right? france is a nation of whores, nothing more.

Naive fool. And I believed you were among the "smart" american guys on FF....

"And I believed you were among the "smart" american guys on FF."

he is simplistic. Like the others.

It won't last long- six weeks or less. The rest will be almost like summer camp.

LTKilling wrote:

looks like Yorktown will be going to war pretty soon

GODPEED LAD

martsy wrote:

but the French heroes are going to make it anyway!

in order to run away from Afghanistan they can even go through Australia

great. More fucking refugees

PopsFrost wrote:

The arrogant fronch believe they have the right to interfere in the internal affairs of other nations. Fuck them.

well, at least they learned something from the yanks, poms & joos

People got even more angry at the afghanistan war because the French soldiers were killed by "allied" afghan soldiers not because they were killed by talibans.

and who was this "Afghan soldier", you think?

He was a fucking taliban in disguise. They murder a lot of civilian Afghanis the same way, just to create terror. That is the point. They are SCUM, the barbarian enemies of humanity. They murder girls for going to school. They murdered people for listening to music. That is why we have to fight them, ashole.

They spread terror in order to hit our weakest points e.g. to scare our French "allies" away.

Fighting the war means soldiers die in many ways, also in accidents, friendly fire etc. So it is fucking irrelevant that this one taliban cheated and wore Afghani allied uniform when he attacked. That is not an adult reason to run away. Don't be ridiculous.

yes, but they are scum in their own country, and did a good job of bringing order from disorder

Fucking karma. The french promise EU membership to turkey if they deny us use of their bases in the Iraq war. Now look at their relations. Fucking karma.

tom25 wrote:

Fucking karma. The french promise EU membership to turkey if they deny us use of their bases in the Iraq war. Now look at their relations. Fucking karma.

Im guessing Turkey as seen the staggering debt of the USA and Europe and is not interested in Joining the Euro anymore.

A new chapter in the history of Russian-Turkish relationships opened after the collapse of the Soviet Union. In the time elapsed since the end of the Cold War, Turkey’s image of Russia as a geopolitical opponent has largely disappeared. Russia has lost much of its global influence, as well as influence in its own neighborhood, and so poses less of a threat to Turkish interests and security. The result is that bilateral Russian-Turkish relations are on an upward trend. As Turkish-Russian Inter-Parliamentary Friendship Group Chairman Salih Kapusuz stated in March 2011 in anticipation of Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s visit to Russia, “A high level of political trust that is unprecedented by historical standards has been attained.”1

Russia is being very strategic. Iran and Turkey and China all becoming part of a cohesive body.
Link
carnegieendowment.org . . .

This oughta fix them.