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en>fr fr>en By FrogKillr  Comments: 8377, member since Mon May 05, 2003On Sun Feb 05, 2012 01:10 PM
Hungary is under fire from the EU for refusing to be their bitch
God Bless the Hungarians
Hungary is almost broke. That is the country's great tragedy. It needs financial help from the other members of the European Union (EU), who are already helping EU states in financial difficulties, and from the IMF. But both the EU and the IMF refuse to come to Hungary's aid because they dislike the new Hungarian Constitution and a series of new laws that came into effect on January 1st.
Last week, the European Commission initiated legal proceedings against Hungary over its new constitution and legislation. It gave Hungary one month to enact changes with regard to the independence of the central bank, the judiciary and the national data protection authority, or else face the prospect of being fined by the European Court of Justice (ECJ), the EU's supreme court. American Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has also voiced concern over democratic freedom in Hungary.
In April last year, the conservative Fidesz party won a landslide victory in the Hungarian Parliament. Fidesz, led by current Prime Minister Viktor Orbán, won over 52% of the votes and more than two thirds of the seats. The Conservatives owed their victory to the deep dissatisfaction of the Hungarians with the Social-Democrat MSZP which led the country since 2002 and has bankrupted its economy.
The MSZP is the successor of the former Communist Party which ruled Hungary until the end of the communist dictatorship in 1989. For the sake of national conciliation, the former Communists were left largely undisturbed when democracy was reintroduced in Hungary. Many members of the old Communist Party were allowed to keep their top positions in the civil service, the judiciary, the universities, the media and the army. Former communists who had enriched themselves by liquidating state assets were also left alone.
As in many other East European countries, the Communists rebranded themselves as Social Democrats. Like the former communist parties in several other East European countries, the MSZP was welcomed into the international networks of the West European social democrat parties. The MSZP even got to hold several high-ranking functions at the European Parliament and in the European Commission.
The Communists' rebranding tactics seemed to have worked. From 1994 to 1998 and from 2002 to 2010, the Hungarians voted the former Communists back into power. In September 2006, however, their reputation received a major blow when a tape was leaked of a private conversation in which the Hungarian Prime Minister Ferenc Gyurcsány could be heard admitting to party officials that he had lied to the nation. Gyurcsány said that the MSZP had won the elections by deliberately concealing how dramatic the economic situation in the country was. The leaking of the tape led to protest demonstrations by thousands of Hungarians who felt cheated by a party that had simply camouflaged its dictatorial core with democratic theatrics. The demonstrators were savagely beaten up by the police, but the Hungarians took revenge in last April's elections. The MSZP was trashed and fell to 19.3% of the popular vote from 49.2% four years earlier.
After the elections, Fidesz set out to do what it had promised the Hungarian electorate it would do: break the power of the old Communist elite. To this end, the Hungarian parliament adopted a new constitution. Its preamble is an ode to traditional values, patriotism, the family and freedom. It even mentions God, which undoubtedly annoys the EU elites in Brussels who refused any reference to God in their own constitution.
Although there is a strong case to be made for a woman's pregnancy not being in the purview of governments but a private matter between her physician and her, the Hungarian constitution protects human life from the moment of conception and, even though same-sex couples may legally register their partnership, defines marriage as a union between a man and a woman. The country's name is also changed from "Hungarian Republic" to "Hungary," and although Hungary remains a republic, the preamble contains references to the Holy Crown of King Stephen, the first king of Hungary.
The Constitution also refers to "the inhuman crimes committed against the Hungarian nation and its citizens during the National Socialist and Communist dictatorships." It explicitly mentions that the self-determination of Hungary was lost between March 19, 1944 (the date of the German invasion) and May 2, 1990 (the date of the first free elections in the post-Communist era), and asserts the invalidity of all legislation dating back to that period: "We do not recognize the Communist constitution of 1949 because it has served as a foundation of tyrannical rule. For this reason that legislation is hereby invalid."
Referring to the damage done by four decades of Communist rule, the constitution says that Hungary has "an eminent need of spiritual renewal since last century's developments have undermined moral values."
With its emphasis on traditional values, historic continuity, Christianity and the need for spiritual renewal, Hungary's constitution is an affront to the ruling liberal elites in the European Union and the world, who are hostile to Europe's Christian heritage and national traditions.
The New York based NGO Human Rights Watch criticized the Hungarian constitution, saying that it "could lead to efforts to overturn Hungary's abortion law and result in restrictions on abortion that would put a number of fundamental rights for women at stake." It also complained that, by defining marriage as a bond between a man and a woman, the constitution "denies LGBT people access to state protection for their families and relationships, and is inconsistent with Hungary's obligations under the European Convention on Human Rights and the European Union Charter on Fundamental Rights."
Hungary has also angered the liberal elites in the West by curbing judicial activism. To this end the retirement age for judges has been lowered from 70 to 62 and the president of the Supreme Court is required to have at least five years' Hungarian judicial experience. This eliminates the incumbent who served for 17 years in the activist European Court of Human Rights.
With regard to the economy, the new Hungary has introduced a flat tax of 19% and has capped the budget deficit to a maximum of 3% of GDP. It is also merging the Hungarian central bank (MNB) with the institution that supervises commercial banks, thereby restricting the power of András Simor, the MNB governor. Simor, an economist who worked for the MNB during the Communist era, is an appointee of the previous MSZP government. While Prime Minister Viktor Orbán is not dismissing Simor, the new constitution wants the MNB governor to take on oath of fidelity to Hungary and its interests. The case is being used by the EU and the IMF to deny Hungary credit guarantees and to justify other sanctions.
Both institutions argue that Hungary has violated the central bank's independence. The European Commission also objects to the oath because the MNB governor is a member of the council of the European Central Bank – a neutral pan-EU body. José Manuel Barroso, the President of the European Commission (and a former Maoist), said last week, as the Commission was initiating legal procedures against Budapest, that the Hungarian authorities had failed "to guarantee respect of EU law" and that the Commission is determined "to make sure that EU laws, both in letter and in spirit are fully respected [in Hungary]. We do not want the shadow of doubt on respect for democratic principles and values to remain over the country any longer."
"The independence of Hungary's central bank will be a precondition for a European Union and International Monetary Fund precautionary financial support program for the country," said Olli Rehn, the European Commissioner For Economic and Monetary Affairs.
In the European Parliament, Orbán was attacked for violating the fundamental values of democracy and freedom. Liberals, Greens and Socialist said that the new Hungarian constitution is an undemocratic document. Liberal group leader Guy Verhofstadt, and Green group leader Daniel Cohn Bendit both called on the EU to suspend Hungary's voting rights in the EU Council because its constitution is a "serious and persistent breach" of EU principles. Cohn Bendit, a former Communist, said that Orbán behaved the same way as Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chávez and Cuban dictator Fidel Castro. Socialist group leader Hannes Swoboda said that Orbán is destroying the very freedoms that the Hungarian people fought for.
The threat that Hungary will not receive the loan of €20bn ($25bn), which it urgently needs to avoid bankruptcy after years of Socialist economic mismanagement, is forcing Orbán to appease his critics. He has promised to amend the measures to restrict the powers of the MNB and the early retirement of judges.
Last Saturday, however, the Hungarians made it clear that they are still standing behind Prime Minister Orbán. Over 100,000 people gathered in Budapest in support of the government. During the last century, the Hungarians played a prominent role in opposing Soviet tyranny. Today, they are taking the lead in opposing the European Union. "May God bless the Hungarians!" says the opening phrase of the new Hungarian constitution. May He, indeed.
www.stonegateinstitute.org . . . 16 Replies to God Bless the Hungarians | re: God Bless the Hungarians (karma: 3)
en>fr fr>en By LTKilling Comments: 7766, member since Sun Aug 14, 2005On Sun Feb 05, 2012 01:15 PM
the Hungarians stood with the THIRD REICH and fought until the very end
TRUE EUROPEANS who stood up and said NO to the international JEW | re: God Bless the Hungarians (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By achilledetroie Comments: 8372, member since Mon Apr 17, 2006On Sun Feb 05, 2012 06:24 PM
Don't know but anyway todays hungarians are resisting to the libtard-fascist E.U. and its big government linked to the IMF and backed by ObamaSS | |
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en>fr fr>en By Nappybonesapart Comments: 15777, member since Fri Aug 27, 2004On Sun Feb 05, 2012 06:32 PM
Profit was Hungary- lest we forget | re: God Bless the Hungarians (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By lookanlearn Comments: 5683, member since Sun Jun 10, 2007On Sun Feb 05, 2012 06:39 PM
Hungarian; one of the worlds most complex languages. | re: God Bless the Hungarians (karma: 5)
en>fr fr>en By bloodhound  Comments: 5971, member since Thu Jan 05, 2006On Mon Feb 06, 2012 07:12 AM
I bought an old house and some land, about ten years ago, not far from Pápa, Hungary. I love it there, but the language is a bitch! I can say a few things, but mostly, the neighbors and I use hand and feet sign language,, lol! Great people and some of the most beautiful women in the world, and dress so damn sexy! I was walking in Pápa one day and saw a beautiful black haird chick, with a knockout figure, coming towards me. Her dress was bright yellow fishnet, with big holes, no bra and tong panties. I love Hungarian women!
And I like Orbán, he tells the Eurotards in Brussels to suck a big one! Good man! | re: God Bless the Hungarians en>fr fr>en By mamud Comments: 17821, member since Mon May 21, 2007On Mon Feb 06, 2012 08:31 AM
 Rebourne's mother also says :
Long live Orban… good bwana ! | re: God Bless the Hungarians (karma: 4)
en>fr fr>en By pippin Comments: 6184, member since Mon Jan 19, 2009On Mon Feb 06, 2012 08:39 AM
I visited Hungary in 1973. I had a Hungarian friend while in Canada, and when he and his family went back to visit his mother, we drove from the UK to meet up with them. I liked it there. We met his cousin, the chief of the local Communist Party. He took us to a night club: flashed his party card to jump the queue and entry fee, then flashed it again to turf the occupants off the best table. So, we had a good evening. Having our motorhome we parked up in his yard over night. I got on well with the guy, and he gave us a case of wine when we left.
On the way home we decided to go through Jugoslavia. We surrendered our visas at the Hungarian border, they expired at midnight and it wos 11:30, we had been cutting it fine.
We crossed the bridge to Jugoslavia but we were refused entry.
My wife's passport had been issued in Ottawa, so at the time, it wos not valid, needing a visa which she didn't have. We had to go back to Hungary with NO visas! Fortunately the Hungarian guard let us in and showed us where to cross into Austria, 2 hours away. I had visions of being stuck on the bridge.
Anyway, as we were nearing the very remote border crossing, driving through a forest on not a major road but a lane, I could make out figures in the undergrowth. Soldiers in furry hats!
A little further on was a swinging lantern and into my headlights emerged a line of soldiers across the road with AK47s trained on us. The officer in charge inspected our passports, saluted, and directed us through a gate into a large parking lot/parade ground and was told to stop in the middle. There were no lights on and we sat there for a while and nothing was happening. All of a sudden, floodlights came on all round, and there were more troops around us pointing their AK47s. We sat there for about 15 minutes staring down the gun barrels until a couple of officers came marching out of a shed. They went into orbit around us and eventually knocked on our back door to be let in. They began a thorough search and were not convinced we did not have secret compartments for smuggling people. It wos still the Iron Curtain after all. In the end I got out my Stanley tape and started measuring areas for them and took them outside and did the same. The penny dropped eventually, and they burst into laughter and let us escape to Austria. Wot larks, Pip, wot fucking larks, eh! | re: God Bless the Hungarians en>fr fr>en By pippin Comments: 6184, member since Mon Jan 19, 2009On Mon Feb 06, 2012 08:56 AM
mamud wrote:
Rebourne's mother also says :
Long live Orban… good bwana ! The fuckin' state of them fingernails. How can she wipe her arsehole? She probably doesn't. | re: God Bless the Hungarians en>fr fr>en By mamud Comments: 17821, member since Mon May 21, 2007On Mon Feb 06, 2012 09:00 AM
pippin wrote:
mamud wrote:
Rebourne's mother also says :
Long live Orban… good bwana ! The fuckin' state of them fingernails. How can she wipe her arsehole? She probably doesn't.
On the contrary, pip… On the contrary… | re: God Bless the Hungarians (karma: 3)
en>fr fr>en By bloodhound  Comments: 5971, member since Thu Jan 05, 2006On Mon Feb 06, 2012 01:06 PM
Edited by bloodhound (78798) on 2012-02-06 13:12:00
pippin wrote:
I visited Hungary in 1973. I had a Hungarian friend while in Canada, and when he and his family went back to visit his mother, we drove from the UK to meet up with them. I liked it there. We met his cousin, the chief of the local Communist Party. He took us to a night club: flashed his party card to jump the queue and entry fee, then flashed it again to turf the occupants off the best table. So, we had a good evening. Having our motorhome we parked up in his yard over night. I got on well with the guy, and he gave us a case of wine when we left.
On the way home we decided to go through Jugoslavia. We surrendered our visas at the Hungarian border, they expired at midnight and it wos 11:30, we had been cutting it fine.
We crossed the bridge to Jugoslavia but we were refused entry.
My wife's passport had been issued in Ottawa, so at the time, it wos not valid, needing a visa which she didn't have. We had to go back to Hungary with NO visas! Fortunately the Hungarian guard let us in and showed us where to cross into Austria, 2 hours away. I had visions of being stuck on the bridge.
Anyway, as we were nearing the very remote border crossing, driving through a forest on not a major road but a lane, I could make out figures in the undergrowth. Soldiers in furry hats!
A little further on was a swinging lantern and into my headlights emerged a line of soldiers across the road with AK47s trained on us. The officer in charge inspected our passports, saluted, and directed us through a gate into a large parking lot/parade ground and was told to stop in the middle. There were no lights on and we sat there for a while and nothing was happening. All of a sudden, floodlights came on all round, and there were more troops around us pointing their AK47s. We sat there for about 15 minutes staring down the gun barrels until a couple of officers came marching out of a shed. They went into orbit around us and eventually knocked on our back door to be let in. They began a thorough search and were not convinced we did not have secret compartments for smuggling people. It wos still the Iron Curtain after all. In the end I got out my Stanley tape and started measuring areas for them and took them outside and did the same. The penny dropped eventually, and they burst into laughter and let us escape to Austria. Wot larks, Pip, wot fucking larks, eh!
When I was visiting my wifes family, back in 1971, we would ride our bikes to the Hungarian border, about a ten minute ride. I was watching the tower guard thru my binoculars and he was looking back at me. I waved, he waved, lol. One night we woke up to what I thought was thunder. Found out the next day it was a family blown up in the mine fields, trying to cross into Austria. Things are still cheap, basic living items. Electronics are getting expensive, along with everything else, thanks the the worthless dicksucking EU bastards. My neighbors are wonderful! They have a weenie dog and when I stay at the house, he comes over and doesn't go home again till I leave, even if I stay a month, lol. Last time, his owner tried to come in my yard and the dog wouldn't let him, threatening to bite. I had to call him off. Hilarious, being attacked by his own weenie dog, lol! | re: God Bless the Hungarians (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By Bat2 Comments: 2525, member since Wed May 25, 2011On Mon Feb 06, 2012 01:59 PM
 Lol, week lossers. I am alweighs hungary because I have two assholes. I challunge yu two a dewl. | re: God Bless the Hungarians en>fr fr>en By lookanlearn Comments: 5683, member since Sun Jun 10, 2007On Mon Feb 06, 2012 04:02 PM
mamud wrote:
Rebourne's mother also says :
Long live OrbanEgood bwana !
Thats a crazy self-portrait mamuddy dude. | re: God Bless the Hungarians en>fr fr>en By pippin Comments: 6184, member since Mon Jan 19, 2009On Mon Feb 06, 2012 06:00 PM
bloodhound wrote:
pippin wrote:
I visited Hungary in 1973. I had a Hungarian friend while in Canada, and when he and his family went back to visit his mother, we drove from the UK to meet up with them. I liked it there. We met his cousin, the chief of the local Communist Party. He took us to a night club: flashed his party card to jump the queue and entry fee, then flashed it again to turf the occupants off the best table. So, we had a good evening. Having our motorhome we parked up in his yard over night. I got on well with the guy, and he gave us a case of wine when we left.
On the way home we decided to go through Jugoslavia. We surrendered our visas at the Hungarian border, they expired at midnight and it wos 11:30, we had been cutting it fine.
We crossed the bridge to Jugoslavia but we were refused entry.
My wife's passport had been issued in Ottawa, so at the time, it wos not valid, needing a visa which she didn't have. We had to go back to Hungary with NO visas! Fortunately the Hungarian guard let us in and showed us where to cross into Austria, 2 hours away. I had visions of being stuck on the bridge.
Anyway, as we were nearing the very remote border crossing, driving through a forest on not a major road but a lane, I could make out figures in the undergrowth. Soldiers in furry hats!
A little further on was a swinging lantern and into my headlights emerged a line of soldiers across the road with AK47s trained on us. The officer in charge inspected our passports, saluted, and directed us through a gate into a large parking lot/parade ground and was told to stop in the middle. There were no lights on and we sat there for a while and nothing was happening. All of a sudden, floodlights came on all round, and there were more troops around us pointing their AK47s. We sat there for about 15 minutes staring down the gun barrels until a couple of officers came marching out of a shed. They went into orbit around us and eventually knocked on our back door to be let in. They began a thorough search and were not convinced we did not have secret compartments for smuggling people. It wos still the Iron Curtain after all. In the end I got out my Stanley tape and started measuring areas for them and took them outside and did the same. The penny dropped eventually, and they burst into laughter and let us escape to Austria. Wot larks, Pip, wot fucking larks, eh!
When I was visiting my wifes family, back in 1971, we would ride our bikes to the Hungarian border, about a ten minute ride. I was watching the tower guard thru my binoculars and he was looking back at me. I waved, he waved, lol. One night we woke up to what I thought was thunder. Found out the next day it was a family blown up in the mine fields, trying to cross into Austria. Things are still cheap, basic living items. Electronics are getting expensive, along with everything else, thanks the the worthless dicksucking EU bastards. My neighbors are wonderful! They have a weenie dog and when I stay at the house, he comes over and doesn't go home again till I leave, even if I stay a month, lol. Last time, his owner tried to come in my yard and the dog wouldn't let him, threatening to bite. I had to call him off. Hilarious, being attacked by his own weenie dog, lol!  Yeah, I had no problems with Hungarians. Some were lunatics, but I had some good times with them. I enjoyed my stay there, although I found their lingo impossible to follow. Nice people. | re: God Bless the Hungarians (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By bloodhound  Comments: 5971, member since Thu Jan 05, 2006On Tue Feb 07, 2012 02:37 AM
Yeah, I had no problems with Hungarians. Some were lunatics, but I had some good times with them. I enjoyed my stay there, although I found their lingo impossible to follow. Nice people.
The ones you have to worry mostly about are the Gypsies, they will steal you blind in a heartbeat! I have a family, living two streets over, and they are always bugging me about something, although we can't understand one another. They will pick up all the fallen apples, in my garden, and sell the to someone who makes apple wine. They will take all metal scrapes to sell, and you never, never leave anything of value laying around, it will be gone in the morning. Once, they came and was looking at my old Mercedes, which was for sale. We tried to talk, they left, came back later with a handwritten paper they wanted me to sign. My neighbor came out and wanted to know what was going on. He hates Gypsies and knows the guys. He read the paper, then started screaming at them, they took off, jumping on their bicycles, he screamed at them again and when they looked back, he ran his thumb across his throat, indicating he would cut their throats. That was two years ago and they have not bothered me since, lol! The paper was a contract that they would give me vegetables, so often, for so long, for my Mercedes! Gypsies are crazy and the biggest crooks you will ever come across. | re: God Bless the Hungarians (karma: 2)
en>fr fr>en By Bat2 Comments: 2525, member since Wed May 25, 2011On Tue Feb 07, 2012 02:47 AM
I don't know what it is about Gypsies, but most of them seem to be brought up to steal from anybody who is not Roma. I had neighbors in the Hollywood Hills who were Gypsies in the 70's. They got the house through fraud, paid no taxes, stole from our yard and all ended up in jail for various felonies. I don't stereotype them, but they seem to be some real piles of shit. | re: God Bless the Hungarians (karma: 2)
en>fr fr>en By martsy Comments: 2707, member since Mon May 19, 2003On Tue Feb 07, 2012 06:38 AM
the Hungarians are stubborn and EU can go and fuck themselves,
Europe fucked them up in the Trianon Treaty and nobody felt like helping them in 1956 when they occupied and murdered by the Soviets.
European media inform about 30000 people demontrations against Orban government but keep silent about more than 100000 in support of the reforms. | ReplySendWatch
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