Everyone's telling me I should fall in line and support this guy, but nobody can tell me why. Usually any attempt to explain why ends up being either an attack on somebody else, or some confident claim that "he's the most electable".

So Romney people, what exactly is it that you'd like to tell me about Mitt? I'm all ears. Make your case.

No case to be made. Both Romney and Gingrich will assure that Obama gets four more years.

Ten Things You Should Do If You’re An “Anybody But Mitt” Republican
posted at 4:50 pm on February 1, 2012 by Mitch Berg

Let’s say, hypothetically, for just a moment here, that some of the pundits are right – that Romney’s landslide victory in Florida means he really might be inevitable.

I’ve heard more than a few of you Newt and Paul supporters out there; “If Romney wins, I’m staying home on election day”.

While I’m not especially passionate about Romney just yet, I’ll reiterate what an awful idea this is. Don’t go there, people.

I’ve got ten suggestions for much more-productive responses.

1.Keep things in perspective - Forget Gingrich’s Alinskiite rhetoric for a moment; Romney’s not a “liberal”. Remember William F. Buckley’s advice – “Vote for the most conservative person who can win?” Romney was the most conservative person who could win…in Massachusetts. He was the most conservative person who could make any headway against a Massachusetts legislature that made Ted Kennedy look like Michele Bachmann. Is he the most conservative candidate who could win in a nationwide general election? Perhaps, perhaps not. But if not? We’ll come back to that. The point being, he’s not just “not a liberal” – on economics, which is what really matters in this election, he’s conservative enough. And for the rest? Well, we’ll get back to that down the list a ways.

2.Relax. Take a deep breath. The world doesn’t begin or end with this nomination. Or even with this election. Even if Romney is as bad as some of you claim, this nation has survived worse. Hell, we’re surviving worse right now. Focus, people; getting Obama out of office is the key – and while some of you reject incrementalism (and I reject the idea that Romney is especially incremental, and even if he is – well, we’ll get back to that below), sometimes it’s all you got, and you gotta deal with it, and when you gotta deal with it, you want the increments to move in the right direction. Romney’s not perfect, but he’s the right direction – and, I suggest, not just a little.

3.Remember The Positive Influence You Do Have - The caucuses and primaries aren’t over. We’re seven months away from the convention – and three months away from the state conventions that will empanel the delegates. This isn’t a done deal yet. I can live with Romney – maybe even better – but I’m caucusing for…I dunno, probably Santorum on Tuesday. Not that I’m thrilled with Santorum, either, but I want Mitt and his supporters to know that to win me (and, I hope, millions like me) that he’s going to have to be more aggressively conservative than he has been acting.

4.Go Shooting. It’s great stress relief. It focuses the mind. And it shows Romney – and Obama – that you can’t whiz on the Second Amendment. It’s a threefer.

5.Remember The Alternative - You think four more years of Obama would be better than four to eight of Romney? There’s a caveat to this, of course – more below.

6.No, Remember The Real Alternative - I hear those among you who say you’ll sit this election out. ”If the party loses because they didn’t go conservative enough for me, it’ll teach them a lesson”. That’s not only groaningly solipsistic – it’s not, after all, all about you – it’s also just not the way political parties and organizations work. I’ve said it a few times in the past few weeks, and I’m going to keep saying it until y’all get it right; Political parties don’t “learn lessons” – they reflect the will of those who show up. And if conservatives – and all you libertarian Ron Paul supporters – don’t show up, then the “establishment wins. And don’t be yapping about “voting Libertarian”, because…

7.Third Parties Are to “Parties” What Near Beer Is To Beer. Let’s be honest; if you are a conservative or a libertarian, the GOP is the only chance you have to actually affect policy for real. The Libertarian, Constitution and Conservative parties are futile, vote-wasting protest actions at best, intellectual onanism at worst. None of them will ever, ever, ever, ever affect the way policy is enacted in this country. Ever. And I say that as someone who not only sincerely wishes they could, but worked for it as a Libertarian Party member. And remember – you, the conservative and libertarian and Tea Partier, have had a huge effect already; four years ago, Romney was defending himself against charges he was “too conservative”; today, it’s the opposite. This is a good thing. You – we – have moved the needle in the GOP. ”But it hasn’t moved far enough and fast enough!”, you say? Suck it up, little camper, and put down the TV remote; political parties don’t change like one of those jump cuts in an NFL game of the week. It takes time, patience and effort. Hell, it took Ronald Reagan and Barry Goldwater close to 20 years to change the GOP, and even that didn’t stick.

8.Be Honest: Campaign rhetoric is one thing – real records, and their context, are much more useful. Romney needs to be kept honest – i.e, conservative – and we have the power to do that (see, again, below), but it’s not like we’re trying to reform Che Guevara, here.

9.Numbers Count: Remember Buckley’s Commandment from earlier in the post? ”Elect the most conservative candidate who can win?” Newt’s negatives shouldn’t be the dispositive factor in this nomination, but you might wanna be mindful of the fact that 60% of the American people would rather have Slobodan Milosevic for President. And Ron Paul is a shoe-in in the4 general – so say his supporters. Who are, so far, 1/6-1/10 of the GOP. If he can’t win the GOP, I’m at a loss for how he has even a faint shot at the general. I’d love to hear a Ronulan spell out a case that leads Paul to the White House that doesn’t include the phrase “and then Ron Paul convinces everyone that he’s ideal”. Honestly – I’d love to hear it. Rand Paul might be another story, and there, I’m all ears - but that’s the future. As far as I”m concerned, for right now the electoral world ends in November. Focus.

10.Checks, Balances. So what if the GOP had no candidate at all, and we were looking at a victory for Obama by default today? What would you be doing now, all you good conservatives? Working to make sure the conservatives hold the House and take the Senate? OK – so let’s say Romney really is as bad as you all want us to believe he is. And let’s say he’s inevitable. Your choices then are “stay home” or “do what you’d do if Obama was going to win – try to negate his power and influence by taking control of Congress”. Why, precisely, should you not then be working to flip the Senate and extend our lead in the House/ Because the opportunity is there, folks, to not just flip Congress completely against either Obama or a hypothetical “moderate” Romney, but flip it to a version of the GOP that, so far, has been pretty Beltway-proof, and fairly dedicated to the mission for which they were sent to GOP by the Tea Party and a newly-resurgent conservative movement in the first place; togovern like conservatives. Keeping them that way is our job. Provided we don’t “stay home” and “teach everyone a lesson”. Because the only “lesson” you “teach” by staying home is that you’re unreliable and marginal. Don’t be that.

Or you can stay home. Your call.

hotair.com . . .

Mournblade wrote:

Ten Things You Should Do If You’re An “Anybody But Mitt” Republican
posted at 4:50 pm on February 1, 2012 by Mitch Berg

Let’s say, hypothetically, for just a moment here, that some of the pundits are right – that Romney’s landslide victory in Florida means he really might be inevitable.

I’ve heard more than a few of you Newt and Paul supporters out there; “If Romney wins, I’m staying home on election day”.

While I’m not especially passionate about Romney just yet, I’ll reiterate what an awful idea this is. Don’t go there, people.

I’ve got ten suggestions for much more-productive responses.

1.Keep things in perspective - Forget Gingrich’s Alinskiite rhetoric for a moment; Romney’s not a “liberal”. Remember William F. Buckley’s advice – “Vote for the most conservative person who can win?” Romney was the most conservative person who could win…in Massachusetts. He was the most conservative person who could make any headway against a Massachusetts legislature that made Ted Kennedy look like Michele Bachmann. Is he the most conservative candidate who could win in a nationwide general election? Perhaps, perhaps not. But if not? We’ll come back to that. The point being, he’s not just “not a liberal” – on economics, which is what really matters in this election, he’s conservative enough. And for the rest? Well, we’ll get back to that down the list a ways.

2.Relax. Take a deep breath. The world doesn’t begin or end with this nomination. Or even with this election. Even if Romney is as bad as some of you claim, this nation has survived worse. Hell, we’re surviving worse right now. Focus, people; getting Obama out of office is the key – and while some of you reject incrementalism (and I reject the idea that Romney is especially incremental, and even if he is – well, we’ll get back to that below), sometimes it’s all you got, and you gotta deal with it, and when you gotta deal with it, you want the increments to move in the right direction. Romney’s not perfect, but he’s the right direction – and, I suggest, not just a little.

3.Remember The Positive Influence You Do Have - The caucuses and primaries aren’t over. We’re seven months away from the convention – and three months away from the state conventions that will empanel the delegates. This isn’t a done deal yet. I can live with Romney – maybe even better – but I’m caucusing for…I dunno, probably Santorum on Tuesday. Not that I’m thrilled with Santorum, either, but I want Mitt and his supporters to know that to win me (and, I hope, millions like me) that he’s going to have to be more aggressively conservative than he has been acting.

4.Go Shooting. It’s great stress relief. It focuses the mind. And it shows Romney – and Obama – that you can’t whiz on the Second Amendment. It’s a threefer.

5.Remember The Alternative - You think four more years of Obama would be better than four to eight of Romney? There’s a caveat to this, of course – more below.

6.No, Remember The Real Alternative - I hear those among you who say you’ll sit this election out. ”If the party loses because they didn’t go conservative enough for me, it’ll teach them a lesson”. That’s not only groaningly solipsistic – it’s not, after all, all about you – it’s also just not the way political parties and organizations work. I’ve said it a few times in the past few weeks, and I’m going to keep saying it until y’all get it right; Political parties don’t “learn lessons” – they reflect the will of those who show up. And if conservatives – and all you libertarian Ron Paul supporters – don’t show up, then the “establishment wins. And don’t be yapping about “voting Libertarian”, because…

7.Third Parties Are to “Parties” What Near Beer Is To Beer. Let’s be honest; if you are a conservative or a libertarian, the GOP is the only chance you have to actually affect policy for real. The Libertarian, Constitution and Conservative parties are futile, vote-wasting protest actions at best, intellectual onanism at worst. None of them will ever, ever, ever, ever affect the way policy is enacted in this country. Ever. And I say that as someone who not only sincerely wishes they could, but worked for it as a Libertarian Party member. And remember – you, the conservative and libertarian and Tea Partier, have had a huge effect already; four years ago, Romney was defending himself against charges he was “too conservative”; today, it’s the opposite. This is a good thing. You – we – have moved the needle in the GOP. ”But it hasn’t moved far enough and fast enough!”, you say? Suck it up, little camper, and put down the TV remote; political parties don’t change like one of those jump cuts in an NFL game of the week. It takes time, patience and effort. Hell, it took Ronald Reagan and Barry Goldwater close to 20 years to change the GOP, and even that didn’t stick.

8.Be Honest: Campaign rhetoric is one thing – real records, and their context, are much more useful. Romney needs to be kept honest – i.e, conservative – and we have the power to do that (see, again, below), but it’s not like we’re trying to reform Che Guevara, here.

9.Numbers Count: Remember Buckley’s Commandment from earlier in the post? ”Elect the most conservative candidate who can win?” Newt’s negatives shouldn’t be the dispositive factor in this nomination, but you might wanna be mindful of the fact that 60% of the American people would rather have Slobodan Milosevic for President. And Ron Paul is a shoe-in in the4 general – so say his supporters. Who are, so far, 1/6-1/10 of the GOP. If he can’t win the GOP, I’m at a loss for how he has even a faint shot at the general. I’d love to hear a Ronulan spell out a case that leads Paul to the White House that doesn’t include the phrase “and then Ron Paul convinces everyone that he’s ideal”. Honestly – I’d love to hear it. Rand Paul might be another story, and there, I’m all ears - but that’s the future. As far as I”m concerned, for right now the electoral world ends in November. Focus.

10.Checks, Balances. So what if the GOP had no candidate at all, and we were looking at a victory for Obama by default today? What would you be doing now, all you good conservatives? Working to make sure the conservatives hold the House and take the Senate? OK – so let’s say Romney really is as bad as you all want us to believe he is. And let’s say he’s inevitable. Your choices then are “stay home” or “do what you’d do if Obama was going to win – try to negate his power and influence by taking control of Congress”. Why, precisely, should you not then be working to flip the Senate and extend our lead in the House/ Because the opportunity is there, folks, to not just flip Congress completely against either Obama or a hypothetical “moderate” Romney, but flip it to a version of the GOP that, so far, has been pretty Beltway-proof, and fairly dedicated to the mission for which they were sent to GOP by the Tea Party and a newly-resurgent conservative movement in the first place; togovern like conservatives. Keeping them that way is our job. Provided we don’t “stay home” and “teach everyone a lesson”. Because the only “lesson” you “teach” by staying home is that you’re unreliable and marginal. Don’t be that.

Or you can stay home. Your call.

hotair.com . . .

cut and paste all you want, but the GOP is set to lose again. The extremists have fucked the party.

erh
is it that he has magic underwear?

oh i know! he supports an alternative history of the Americas that flies in the face of science and that no professional supports outside of his faith supports

and its good practice for him as if hes good here, he gets to be Jesus Christ on another planet, don't thwart his plans Beetlejuice 5 needs him

He speaks french.

Nuff said,...

mitt is gonna cut a deal with R Paul. ron or/and rand will get cabinet level positions. Ron and rand will campaign (sell out) for mitt. I think this will be a winning combination.

Yup, it is better then Obama.

Romney is not my first choice and I believe he is a bit of an empty suit and won't bring the kind of change we will need to fix this country. That said, I think he is basically a decent honest man with good business sense, proven ability to govern,and will be a million times better than Obama. I also believe, unlike Newt, he can BEAT Obama.

I really dread seeing what Obama will do in a second term and not giving a shit about being reelected.

Once Paul is out, I'm going to have to back Romney.

Johnny_Ola wrote:

Romney is not my first choice and I believe he is a bit of an empty suit and won't bring the kind of change we will need to fix this country. That said, I think he is basically a decent honest man with good business sense, proven ability to govern,and will be a million times better than Obama. I also believe, unlike Newt, he can BEAT Obama.

I really dread seeing what Obama will do in a second term and not giving a shit about being reelected.

Once Paul is out, I'm going to have to back Romney.

Alfred E. Newman would make a batter president than obama. Bugs Bunny. I don't care who gets in as long as obama is out. As said above, Obama in a second term will be even worse since he won't have to worry about votes.

Romney may be a gigantic douche, but Obambi is a turd sandwich and I'm all out of breath mints.

I cannot stand Mittens...but at least he would be right on some issues. For example, no more commie czars and at least he would have the balls to bomb the ragheads. He may crack the whip on illegals and could be persuaded to repeal Obamacare. Hell, that's something. A helluva a lot more than we have now.

Mittens would be a horrid choice simply because Team Hussein is wanting that matchup more than Gingrich or Santorum, though Santorum would be number 2. They know that Mittens would piss off and alienate the conservative base.

But really the only reason to vote for him would be to get Obama the hell out of office. 4 more years of Hope and Change would get me to vote for Donald Duck at this point. At least he had the guts to fight the Nazis during WWII instead of apologizing for his country.

It's obvious, not many read my post above.



Oh well.

Romney would not actively work on the destruction of the USA and western civilization as 0bama has tirelessly done. Romeny would have more than 10% of his staff from the private sector.

That's all I got.

Bat2 wrote:


cut and paste all you want, but the GOP is set to lose again. The extremists have fucked the party.

Extremists? Try the mushy moderate pussies.

Okay, so far we got "magic underwear" and he speaks french. I'll take that into consideration.

Anything else?

ProjectLily wrote:


Mittens would be a horrid choice simply because Team Hussein is wanting that matchup more than Gingrich or Santorum, though Santorum would be number 2. They know that Mittens would piss off and alienate the conservative base.

They'd love Newt as the nominee...he would fire up the liberal base to get out and vote like no one else could, and screw the GOP with women, who mostly loathe Newt. If he gets the nod we'll get hammered worse than 2008.

And the next POTUS will probably get to pick 1-2 SCOTUS judges....we cannot allow that to be Barry. If he replaces Kennedy or one of the conservative Justices with another Kagan or Sotomeyer, this country is over.

ProjectLily wrote:

Mittens would be a horrid choice simply because Team Hussein is wanting that matchup more than Gingrich or Santorum, though Santorum would be number 2. They know that Mittens would piss off and alienate the conservative base.

Go read some liberal blogs. They are dreaming of Newt or Santorum being the pick the same way we conservatives wanted to go up against Hillary. Newt is an insider who completely turns off most women and a good chunk of the moderates. Unless he can get Obumbler to spew a Dean Scream in mid-debate, Newt's goose is cooked. Just do the math.

I know its difficult, but I DID ask people to make a case for Mitt. Complaints about the other candidates, we've seen plenty of that. If you could tell me something about Mitt that would make me want to vote for him, I surely would appreciate it.

Johnny_Ola wrote:


Go read some liberal blogs. They are dreaming of Newt or Santorum being the pick the same way we conservatives wanted to go up against Hillary. Newt is an insider who completely turns off most women and a good chunk of the moderates. Unless he can get Obumbler to spew a Dean Scream in mid-debate, Newt's goose is cooked. Just do the math.

Seriously? As I recall, the perception of the GOP was that if Obama was their nominee, it'd be a cake walk. I surely didn't think that we'd elect a marxist named Barack Hussein Obama, and quite frankly I think the only reason we lost was that we had a shitty candidate who ran a shitty campaign. The only thing he did that was good was taking Palin, otherwise he'd have lost by another 5-10%. Hell, if it was McCain against Hillary I'd probably have voted for Hillary, if I voted at all.

But enough of that, let's talk about Mitt.

Okay, I just thought of one so let's get the ball rolling...

I think most people will concede that Romney's dick is white. Probably lilly-white, or maybe fish-belly white. But definitely white.

So in a Romney administration, we can be assured of no more big black penises in the White House.

In a Hiltery vs McLAME I definitely would've voted "none of the above". Had to hold my nose to vote for McLAME becuase even then I knew what complete cluster fuck the kenyan born socialist usurper would be.

By Reed Comments: 11157, member since Sat May 24, 2003
On Sun Feb 05, 2012 04:10 AM
Everyone's telling me I should fall in line and support this guy, but nobody can tell me why.

Because Newt called Paul Ryan's budget "right wing social engineering". Because Newt accused Romney of greed: why do you need 300M? wouldn't 100M be enough? Because Newt aligned with Pelosi out of all people on Global warming. Because Newt caters to illegals and is every bit as "compassionate conservative' as Bush was/

I like listening to Newt. He is brilliant. But he is Obama of the right. Believer in his intellectual superiority and right to govern the stupid peasants with an iron huge Gooberment fist.

Which leaves Romney as a lesser evil

I always vote republican. lesser of two evils.

Mournblade wrote:

It's obvious, not many read my post above.



Oh well.

I read it but I'm not buying that anybody but obama crap. It's that kind of talk that got us obama in the first place.

We need a real conservative but don't think it's going to happen.