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re: EU prepares for potential gas crisis (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By VAVD Comments: 2738, member since Wed Nov 25, 2009
On Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:51 PM
I applaud your efforts towards harnessing the power of feces to provide a brighter future for us all. Your name will go down in history, echoing through the ages as the savior of mankind. God bless you, sir.
re: EU prepares for potential gas crisis (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By lookanlearn Comments: 5671, member since Sun Jun 10, 2007
On Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:56 PM
VAVD wrote:

I applaud your efforts towards harnessing the power of feces to provide a brighter future for us all. Your name will go down in history, echoing through the ages as the savior of mankind. God bless you, sir.

Kudos to you for the filthy oil and the raidation sir.
re: EU prepares for potential gas crisis (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By mikgof Comments: 10247, member since Tue Feb 17, 2004
On Sat Feb 04, 2012 12:19 AM
Actually Look and Learn's idea is practicable. All the sewerage is collected at a processing plant anyway, using it to produce methane would be fairly straight forward engineering. The shit is being collected anyway and nature makes sure that the methane is produced; why not trap it? It's hardly an answer to our energy problems but it could make a useful contribution.
re: EU prepares for potential gas crisis en>fr fr>en
By VAVD Comments: 2738, member since Wed Nov 25, 2009
On Sat Feb 04, 2012 12:29 AM
See, LnL, your idea is already gaining public support. Mikgof wholeheartedly endorses the idea of inserting a solid-waste collection tube up the anus of every British cow.

While that's only one vote in your favor, remember that "a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step".
re: EU prepares for potential gas crisis en>fr fr>en
By lookanlearn Comments: 5671, member since Sun Jun 10, 2007
On Sat Feb 04, 2012 03:18 AM
VAVD wrote:

See, LnL, your idea is already gaining public support. Mikgof wholeheartedly endorses the idea of inserting a solid-waste collection tube up the anus of every British cow.

While that's only one vote in your favor, remember that "a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step".

Do you get `K` for every comment that is altered from the full context?
The waste collection vaccum is a very small part of the overall concept. Now get back to sucking milk out of cows tits with a 4-teet vaccum pump.
re: EU prepares for potential gas crisis (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By Klausbarbie Comments: 2139, member since Tue Mar 22, 2005
On Sat Feb 04, 2012 03:31 AM
Russia is simply diverting more gas to meet domestic needs. Germany has stored enough to compensate for reduced flow. If Russia was truly ill-willed, the gas prices would soar due to extortionate beligerence
re: EU prepares for potential gas crisis en>fr fr>en
By lookanlearn Comments: 5671, member since Sun Jun 10, 2007
On Sat Feb 04, 2012 03:35 AM
Klausbarbie wrote:

Russia is simply diverting more gas to meet domestic needs. Germany has stored enough to compensate for reduced flow. If Russia was truly ill-willed, the gas prices would soar due to extortionate beligerence

If Capitalism is OK then Russia can charge what the fuck it likes.
re: EU prepares for potential gas crisis en>fr fr>en
By Bat2 Comments: 2523, member since Wed May 25, 2011
On Sat Feb 04, 2012 03:42 AM
LOL. Euro arrogance iws what got us millions of deaths in the last century and will get us, perhaps a billion in the first half of this one. Too bad it will be all the blonde girls instead of the Arabs the Euros love to suck off. The US will need to realize this and isolate itself from the Euro crap.
re: EU prepares for potential gas crisis en>fr fr>en
By lookanlearn Comments: 5671, member since Sun Jun 10, 2007
On Sat Feb 04, 2012 04:12 AM
Bat2 wrote:

LOL. Euro arrogance iws what got us millions of deaths in the last century and will get us, perhaps a billion in the first half of this one. Too bad it will be all the blonde girls instead of the Arabs the Euros love to suck off. The US will need to realize this and isolate itself from the Euro crap.

You should run for election.
re: EU prepares for potential gas crisis en>fr fr>en
By Bat2 Comments: 2523, member since Wed May 25, 2011
On Sat Feb 04, 2012 04:41 AM
lookanlearn wrote:

Bat2 wrote:

LOL. Euro arrogance iws what got us millions of deaths in the last century and will get us, perhaps a billion in the first half of this one. Too bad it will be all the blonde girls instead of the Arabs the Euros love to suck off. The US will need to realize this and isolate itself from the Euro crap.

You should run for election.


I do not have the stomach for it although I am more qualified and more of an American than Obama in every sense. I would propose a new alignment of the US, UK and Germay to offset the 3rd world. Maybe we can bring in real productive countries like japan, Israel and (hold your nose) France. To fight the growing anti-west movement. I would be willing to let Israel go providing that we know they will have enough to annihilate hostiles and go donw fighting, thereby letting us off the leash with the muzz scum.
re: EU prepares for potential gas crisis en>fr fr>en
By lookanlearn Comments: 5671, member since Sun Jun 10, 2007
On Sat Feb 04, 2012 05:20 AM
Bat2 wrote:

lookanlearn wrote:

Bat2 wrote:

LOL. Euro arrogance iws what got us millions of deaths in the last century and will get us, perhaps a billion in the first half of this one. Too bad it will be all the blonde girls instead of the Arabs the Euros love to suck off. The US will need to realize this and isolate itself from the Euro crap.

You should run for election.


I do not have the stomach for it although I am more qualified and more of an American than Obama in every sense. I would propose a new alignment of the US, UK and Germay to offset the 3rd world. Maybe we can bring in real productive countries like japan, Israel and (hold your nose) France. To fight the growing anti-west movement. I would be willing to let Israel go providing that we know they will have enough to annihilate hostiles and go donw fighting, thereby letting us off the leash with the muzz scum.

Sounds fairly reasonable under the circumstances; realising that if every Jew was killed in the M.E. there are still plenty left in every country; organising whatever they organise next.
re: EU prepares for potential gas crisis (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By mikgof Comments: 10247, member since Tue Feb 17, 2004
On Sat Feb 04, 2012 05:38 AM
Sounds fairly reasonable under the circumstances; realising that if every Jew was killed in the M.E. there are still plenty left in every country; organising whatever they organise next.


There are only 15 million Jews in the world. That's 0.21% of the worlds population If they are "organising" the other 99.79% then they are far more intelligent than the rest of us and deserve to organise the world. But they're not. They differ from us only that they are the universal scapegoat.
re: EU prepares for potential gas crisis en>fr fr>en
By lookanlearn Comments: 5671, member since Sun Jun 10, 2007
On Sat Feb 04, 2012 05:49 AM
They differ from us only that they are the universal scapegoat.

Every German is the universal scapegoat for preventing themselves from being over-run (like the Muzz are practicing now across the "West"); and Germans are still paying for it generations down the line; where WW2 is fuck all to do with the great grandchildren of German WW2 vets....
;)

Cat, Pidgeons.

Jesus was part Jewish; I like Jesus.
re: EU prepares for potential gas crisis en>fr fr>en
By Klausbarbie Comments: 2139, member since Tue Mar 22, 2005
On Sat Feb 04, 2012 06:24 AM
Edited by Klausbarbie (76518) on 2012-02-04 06:26:49
Edited by Klausbarbie (76518) on 2012-02-04 06:39:45
What was the other part?
Bat2 wrote:

...I would propose a new alignment of the US, UK and Germay to offset the 3rd world...
Problem is: All 3 have now become part of the 3rd World
NOZZLE wrote:

They should tap Yulia's ass for gas...

Image hotlink - 'http://totallycoolpix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/14102011_coolest_pix_week_41/week41_050.jpg'
I'd like to tap her daughter's (leaning behind Julia) gas reserves with my rough-necked rig
re: EU prepares for potential gas crisis en>fr fr>en
By MadRusski Comments: 39075, member since Mon Aug 16, 2004
On Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:22 AM

LOl. you think you are the only one having a chimney ,bourbon and a warm house ?

Here,it is -5 °C outside but warm inside.


Image hotlink - 'http://vasi.net/uploads/posts/2007-12/1198790648_snow-sex-2.jpg'
re: EU prepares for potential gas crisis (karma: 3)  en>fr fr>en
By MadRusski Comments: 39075, member since Mon Aug 16, 2004
On Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:26 AM
Simple warming himself up in cold weather

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re: EU prepares for potential gas crisis en>fr fr>en
By lookanlearn Comments: 5671, member since Sun Jun 10, 2007
On Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:00 PM
Straight into one o these?
re: EU prepares for potential gas crisis en>fr fr>en
By bloodhoundmember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 5969, member since Thu Jan 05, 2006
On Sun Feb 05, 2012 05:12 AM
jerrylewissux wrote:

In related news...



French nitrogen-fertilizer shipments fell 19 percent to the lowest in at least four years from July through November, while phosphate and potassium deliveries also dropped, national fertilizer-industry association Unifa said.

Nitrogen sales in France, the European Union’s largest crop grower, fell to 864,000 metric tons in the first five months of the year begun July 1 from 1.06 million tons a year earlier, Paris-based Unifa said in an e-mailed statement today.

France is the 27-nation EU’s biggest crop-nutrient user, according to the International Fertilizer Industry Association. French grain farmers typically buy fertilizer for next year’s crop after most harvesting is done in September.

Potassium-fertilizer shipments in France fell 10 percent to 282,000 tons in the May-November period, while phosphate deliveries slid 24 percent to 221,000 tons, Unifa said.

The association tracks nitrogen sales on the basis of a year that starts July 1, while the marketing year for potassium and phosphorus begins May 1.


No gas, no fertilizer. No fertilizer, no crops. No crops, no bread. And we all know how pissy the frogs get about bread.

Bust out the popcorn!


Here in Austria, -9°C but no snow in the flatlands where I live. Gas is 1.41 euro a liter. I just brought three ricks of wood home and have another twenty or so ready when I need it. Staying warm is no problem for me, lol!
re: EU prepares for potential gas crisis (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By NikosAliagas Comments: 1122, member since Sun Jul 15, 2007
On Sun Feb 05, 2012 07:35 AM
VAPD wrote:

lookanlearn wrote:


I said 25 years ago the UK should use human and Animal waste to be stored to create methane to turn into gas power- at such menthane storage plants.

Fuck em (in the UK) for not listenin.


How did you propose that this waste should be collected and stored?


There is enough bullshit in a single post by Outback_Steakhouse to heat the city of Liverpool for a month.
re: EU prepares for potential gas crisis en>fr fr>en
By iciparis Comments: 3730, member since Tue Jul 18, 2006
On Sun Feb 05, 2012 02:29 PM
simplefrench wrote:

Who gives a shit ?

In France we have the most power plants per capita. Our heating is mainly electricity.

And we have several months of gas reserves.


In the ass americans.


Question is Simple, how many of your nuke plants are down for maintenance at any given time. Last year it was around 14 at this time. This year, haven't checked yet, but right now you're importing on average 1.5 GW of electricity from the UK through the Channel interconnector. Last year during the cold snap the figure was even higher plus you were importing about the same from Germany. Check out the EDF site for the figures. Here's the graph from NETA UK.

www.bmreports.com . . .
re: EU prepares for potential gas crisis en>fr fr>en
By lookanlearn Comments: 5671, member since Sun Jun 10, 2007
On Sun Feb 05, 2012 02:35 PM
iciparis wrote:

simplefrench wrote:

Who gives a shit ?

In France we have the most power plants per capita. Our heating is mainly electricity.

And we have several months of gas reserves.


In the ass americans.


Question is Simple, how many of your nuke plants are down for maintenance at any given time. Last year it was around 14 at this time. This year, haven't checked yet, but right now you're importing on average 1.5 GW of electricity from the UK through the Channel interconnector. Last year during the cold snap the figure was even higher plus you were importing about the same from Germany. Check out the EDF site for the figures. Here's the graph from NETA UK.

www.bmreports.com . . .

Back to burning Jews I guess :(
re: EU prepares for potential gas crisis (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By iciparis Comments: 3730, member since Tue Jul 18, 2006
On Sun Feb 05, 2012 03:17 PM
lookanlearn wrote:

iciparis wrote:

simplefrench wrote:

Who gives a shit ?

In France we have the most power plants per capita. Our heating is mainly electricity.

And we have several months of gas reserves.


In the ass americans.


Question is Simple, how many of your nuke plants are down for maintenance at any given time. Last year it was around 14 at this time. This year, haven't checked yet, but right now you're importing on average 1.5 GW of electricity from the UK through the Channel interconnector. Last year during the cold snap the figure was even higher plus you were importing about the same from Germany. Check out the EDF site for the figures. Here's the graph from NETA UK.

www.bmreports.com . . .

Back to burning Jews I guess :(


Well, let's hope not, but did you look at graph of the paltry amount of juice these fucking useless windmills are producing? 600 MW and going down fast as the high pressure system sets in! Last year the birdkillers were producing a measly 0.3% of the country's energy needs just when it was needed most. And the clown Huhne was obsessed with spending billions more on them. Thankfully he has been given the boot (sorry resigned) for perverting the course of justice for passing on a speeding offence to his ex wife. Funny thing is he was a director in the company that produces the speed cameras :D. Not so funny is that his successor is another LibDumb who is intent on carrying on with his idiotic energy policies, i.e. building more of these inefficient useless and ugly machines that don't work when you need them. And Britain is sitting on a massive amount of shale gas that they are trying to block the exploitation of. Never mind the Jews, I'm more concerned about the number of old folks who are going to die of hypothermia this winter because they can't afford to heat their houses due to the hike in energy prices caused by clueless fuckheads like Huhne and that labour idiot Millipede who preceded him. Cunts.

Off with their heads!
re: EU prepares for potential gas crisis en>fr fr>en
By lookanlearn Comments: 5671, member since Sun Jun 10, 2007
On Sun Feb 05, 2012 03:48 PM
iciparis wrote:

lookanlearn wrote:

iciparis wrote:

simplefrench wrote:

Who gives a shit ?

In France we have the most power plants per capita. Our heating is mainly electricity.

And we have several months of gas reserves.


In the ass americans.


Question is Simple, how many of your nuke plants are down for maintenance at any given time. Last year it was around 14 at this time. This year, haven't checked yet, but right now you're importing on average 1.5 GW of electricity from the UK through the Channel interconnector. Last year during the cold snap the figure was even higher plus you were importing about the same from Germany. Check out the EDF site for the figures. Here's the graph from NETA UK.

www.bmreports.com . . .

Back to burning Jews I guess :(


Well, let's hope not, but did you look at graph of the paltry amount of juice these fucking useless windmills are producing? 600 MW and going down fast as the high pressure system sets in! Last year the birdkillers were producing a measly 0.3% of the country's energy needs just when it was needed most. And the clown Huhne was obsessed with spending billions more on them. Thankfully he has been given the boot (sorry resigned) for perverting the course of justice for passing on a speeding offence to his ex wife. Funny thing is he was a director in the company that produces the speed cameras :D. Not so funny is that his successor is another LibDumb who is intent on carrying on with his idiotic energy policies, i.e. building more of these inefficient useless and ugly machines that don't work when you need them. And Britain is sitting on a massive amount of shale gas that they are trying to block the exploitation of. Never mind the Jews, I'm more concerned about the number of old folks who are going to die of hypothermia this winter because they can't afford to heat their houses due to the hike in energy prices caused by clueless fuckheads like Huhne and that labour idiot Millipede who preceded him. Cunts.

Off with their heads!

Alternatives?
There is a lot of unused power in the rivers (I have `variable depth river` power generator idea/s).
UK has good geo-thermal potential (not using current methods [but using a design-invention-concept I have had for twenty years or more]); there is vast sea tidal/wave power to be tapped. But it seems nobody wants clean energy.

Fracking also mixes gas/polutants with ground water; not a good combination. Now if you can drill for the gas without fracking....all well and good.

Just try and remember the ferkers who come after us when the Oil and gas runs out...our great grandchildren.

N`est pas?
:D
Smily face.
re: EU prepares for potential gas crisis (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By iciparis Comments: 3730, member since Tue Jul 18, 2006
On Sun Feb 05, 2012 06:07 PM
lookanlearn wrote:

iciparis wrote:

lookanlearn wrote:

iciparis wrote:

simplefrench wrote:

Who gives a shit ?

In France we have the most power plants per capita. Our heating is mainly electricity.

And we have several months of gas reserves.


In the ass americans.


Question is Simple, how many of your nuke plants are down for maintenance at any given time. Last year it was around 14 at this time. This year, haven't checked yet, but right now you're importing on average 1.5 GW of electricity from the UK through the Channel interconnector. Last year during the cold snap the figure was even higher plus you were importing about the same from Germany. Check out the EDF site for the figures. Here's the graph from NETA UK.

www.bmreports.com . . .

Back to burning Jews I guess :(


Well, let's hope not, but did you look at graph of the paltry amount of juice these fucking useless windmills are producing? 600 MW and going down fast as the high pressure system sets in! Last year the birdkillers were producing a measly 0.3% of the country's energy needs just when it was needed most. And the clown Huhne was obsessed with spending billions more on them. Thankfully he has been given the boot (sorry resigned) for perverting the course of justice for passing on a speeding offence to his ex wife. Funny thing is he was a director in the company that produces the speed cameras :D. Not so funny is that his successor is another LibDumb who is intent on carrying on with his idiotic energy policies, i.e. building more of these inefficient useless and ugly machines that don't work when you need them. And Britain is sitting on a massive amount of shale gas that they are trying to block the exploitation of. Never mind the Jews, I'm more concerned about the number of old folks who are going to die of hypothermia this winter because they can't afford to heat their houses due to the hike in energy prices caused by clueless fuckheads like Huhne and that labour idiot Millipede who preceded him. Cunts.

Off with their heads!

Alternatives?
There is a lot of unused power in the rivers (I have `variable depth river` power generator idea/s).
UK has good geo-thermal potential (not using current methods [but using a design-invention-concept I have had for twenty years or more]); there is vast sea tidal/wave power to be tapped. But it seems nobody wants clean energy.

Fracking also mixes gas/polutants with ground water; not a good combination. Now if you can drill for the gas without fracking....all well and good.

Just try and remember the ferkers who come after us when the Oil and gas runs out...our great grandchildren.

N`est pas?
:D
Smily face.


L&L. When it comes to sources of alternative energy, I've spent a lot of time looking and studying the different sources. They have their place if used properly and intelligently, but can never supply the base load for industrial countries with large populations. The world's first commercial wave energy machine was designed, developed and produced in Scotland - the Pelamis - 750 kW output per machine in the right conditions. Not bad but expensive to get the juice ashore and output variability difficult to match with the grid - same problem as the birdchoppers. Until they come up with efficient local storage systems - supercapacitors, etc. they will never be a reliable source of energy and will always have to be backed up with conventional generating systems. That's the reality at the moment but I don't underestimate man's ingenuity to develop these systems as time goes on. Tidal generators are useful too and more dependable - quite a few UK companies developing them and some are already in production, but start drawing too much energy from the tide and you'll find that tides won't reach places they used to and the greenies will be up in arms about that - loss of natural habitats in estuaries and so on. The Severn is perfect for a tidal barrage system but why is there so much resistance? One look at the mess the La Rance barrage made to the surrounding environment in Brittany will give you the answer. The upstream environment has been changed permanently for the worse and is more or less devoid of fish. Geothermal has its place as well, but has to be used responsibly. There is a system in Switzerland that is too big and causing the rock to fracture under the town and the foundations of buildings are caving in. There is a large scale geothermal system being constructed in SW England at the moment - can only hope they've done their homework. Tapping energy from river flow is also a goer, but there are limits; draw too much energy and there might be adverse effects downstream that are not immediately apparent.
All these systems will gradually develop, but a lot of thought and precision engineeering has to go into them. The last thing we need is another headlong rush into the "latest gamechanger" that turns out to be a fuck up and a waste of money at the end of the day, i.e. the birdchoppers.
I'm all for these systems being developed responsibly, but have come to the conclusion that for all their disadvantages, oil, coal, gas and nuclear are going to be around and be essential for a long long time to come to ensure the baseload for the modern world.
That's the reality whether the greenies like it or not. Alternatives will just not do the trick, though I'm not saying that they shouldn't be developed. The world is moving into a cold period set to peak in 2040 according to the latest 'credible' research into solar behaviour - every kilowatt will count.
Time to ditch the global warming bullshit the self-serving, CO2 obsessed IPCC, Gore and climate astrologers masquerading as scientists have been peddling for far too long. That crowd are a menace to humankind
re: EU prepares for potential gas crisis (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By lookanlearn Comments: 5671, member since Sun Jun 10, 2007
On Sun Feb 05, 2012 06:25 PM
L&L. When it comes to sources of alternative energy, I've spent a lot of time looking and studying the different sources. They have their place if used properly and intelligently, but can never supply the base load for industrial countries with large populations.
I dont disagree with continuing with Coal, nucldar and gas in MODERATION.

The world's first commercial wave energy machine was designed, developed and produced in Scotland - the Pelamis - 750 kW output per machine in the right conditions. Not bad but expensive to get the juice ashore and output variability difficult to match with the grid - same problem as the birdchoppers.

The first commercial wave machine was not the best design; like the first car was not a Lexus LS. Power distributuion is advancing with new carbon-fibre cables being developed; much thiner using spiderweb molecular tech. Low resistance.

Until they come up with efficient local storage systems - supercapacitors, etc. they will never be a reliable source of energy and will always have to be backed up with conventional generating systems.
I dont disagree.

That's the reality at the moment but I don't underestimate man's ingenuity to develop these systems as time goes on. Tidal generators are useful too and more dependable - quite a few UK companies developing them and some are already in production, but start drawing too much energy from the tide and you'll find that tides won't reach places they used to and the greenies will be up in arms about that - loss of natural habitats in estuaries and so on. The Severn is perfect for a tidal barrage system but why is there so much resistance?

Cut off the electric supply to the complainers.


One look at the mess the La Rance barrage made to the surrounding environment in Brittany will give you the answer
The upstream environment has been changed permanently for the worse and is more or less devoid of fish..
Designed by Citroen?

Geothermal has its place as well, but has to be used responsibly. There is a system in Switzerland that is too big and causing the rock to fracture under the town and the foundations of buildings are caving in.
Tha tis due to the design of the way they are tapping the Geo-thermal power which I have found a solution to.


There is a large scale geothermal system being constructed in SW England at the moment - can only hope they've done their homework.
Southampton had a facility 28 years ago; but used the same old method as the one in Switzeralnd (also has scaling problems). My design almost completely avoids such isuses and problems.

Tapping energy from river flow is also a goer, but there are limits; draw too much energy and there might be adverse effects downstream that are not immediately apparent.

Waterwheels only improve water. Oxyginating it.

All these systems will gradually develop, but a lot of thought and precision engineeering has to go into them. The last thing we need is another headlong rush into the "latest gamechanger" that turns out to be a fuck up and a waste of money at the end of the day, i.e. the birdchoppers.

Free cat food?


I'm all for these systems being developed responsibly, but have come to the conclusion that for all their disadvantages, oil, coal, gas and nuclear are going to be around and be essential for a long long time to come to ensure the baseload for the modern world.
Gradual progress is fine.

That's the reality whether the greenies like it or not. Alternatives will just not do the trick, though I'm not saying that they shouldn't be developed. The world is moving into a cold period set to peak in 2040 according to the latest 'credible' research into solar behaviour - every kilowatt will count.
Hence the reason for as many alternatives as possible.


Time to ditch the global warming bullshit the self-serving, CO2 obsessed IPCC, Gore and climate astrologers masquerading as scientists have been peddling for far too long. That crowd are a menace to humankind

Global warming theory I read/heard was that there will be Global weather extremes accentuated.
Kudos to ya for the intelligent response.
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