GM sold just 603 Volts - above its sales in January 2011, but far below GM's best-ever sales month in December, when GM sold 1,529 Volts.
Considering that each Volt sold costs the US taxpayer north of $200K this is a great thing for the taxpayer.
GM sold about 7,700 in 2011, below GM's target of 10,000. GM abandoned its sales target of 45,000 for 2012 last month, saying it would match "supply to demand."
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Volt sales fall in January
# By David Shepardson
# Detroit News Washington Bureau
Washington- General Motors extended-range electric Chevrolet Volt had its worst sales month since August, as negative publicity over fire risks hurt vehicles sales in January.
GM sold just 603 Volts - above its sales in January 2011, but far below GM's best-ever sales month in December, when GM sold 1,529 Volts.
Last week, GM North America President Mark Reuss said sales of the Volt have been hurt by bad publicity.
Reuss said bad publicity from the government's investigation into fire risks of post-crash Volts is "definitely a component" of the decline in sales.
GM sold about 7,700 in 2011, below GM's target of 10,000. GM abandoned its sales target of 45,000 for 2012 last month, saying it would match "supply to demand."
GM was outsold by Nissan Motor Co.'s all-electric Leaf in 2011, as the Japanese automaker sold nearly 9,700 last year. Nissan said it sold 676 Leafs in January, down from 954 in December.
Nissan hopes to double Leaf sales this year.
Reuss said that when GM restarts production in February at its Detroit-Hamtramck Assembly plant, it will build Volts in a "very reasonable" volume. He said there is some pent-up export demand.
re: Volt sales fall in Januaryen>frfr>en By lookanlearn Comments: 5637, member since Sun Jun 10, 2007
On Thu Feb 02, 2012 05:49 PM
The investment of a new line of products always carries a premium.
Its a risk.
The specifications of the Volt I dont know (does it have installed parking camersa and color sat-nav and blootooth phone and hard-drive for music, like my 3y/o Nissan?); but it should have solar panels on the roof; or all your homes hould have solar roofs and at supermarked parking before you will see success.
Petro-companies do not want that....nor their shareholders.
.... until they can build a full size automobile that can perform at the same speeds and travel the same distance on a full charge as a tank of fuel and be cost competitive with a combustion engine auto you'll only see a few suckers buying these things. ask the folks in elkhart indiana.
Indiana’s foray into electric vehicles is a cautionary tale for states in hot pursuit of high-tech manufacturing jobs. Think’s story illustrates how politicians so badly wanted to stimulate job growth that they showered it and the battery supplier with tax breaks and incentives while at the same time failing to determine whether there was a market for the car: a plastic two-seater with a top speed of about 65 miles an hour and a price tag approaching $42,000.
“Where’s the value?” Gregg Fore, an Elkhart recreational vehicle industry executive, said of Think. “I could buy a golf cart for five grand if that’s what I wanted to drive.”
re: Volt sales fall in Januaryen>frfr>en By lookanlearn Comments: 5637, member since Sun Jun 10, 2007
On Thu Feb 02, 2012 08:08 PM
flyindutchman wrote:
.... until they can build a full size automobile that can perform at the same speeds and travel the same distance on a full charge as a tank of fuel and be cost competitive with a combustion engine auto you'll only see a few suckers buying these things. ask the folks in elkhart indiana.
Indiana’s foray into electric vehicles is a cautionary tale for states in hot pursuit of high-tech manufacturing jobs. Think’s story illustrates how politicians so badly wanted to stimulate job growth that they showered it and the battery supplier with tax breaks and incentives while at the same time failing to determine whether there was a market for the car: a plastic two-seater with a top speed of about 65 miles an hour and a price tag approaching $42,000.
“Where’s the value?� Gregg Fore, an Elkhart recreational vehicle industry executive, said of Think. “I could buy a golf cart for five grand if that’s what I wanted to drive.�
With Japanese Li-ion batteries there is no reason why the petrol guts of almost any car cant be pulled out and a hood full of batteries and electric motor replace it. With a few mods.
YA DONT HAVE TO DESIGN A WHOLE NEW CAR.
But the 2013 Toyota Estima will prove the market direction is electric...full range, speed and rechargable anywhere and sophisticated.
.... until they can build a full size automobile that can perform at the same speeds and travel the same distance on a full charge as a tank of fuel and be cost competitive with a combustion engine auto you'll only see a few suckers buying these things. ask the folks in elkhart indiana.
Indiana’s foray into electric vehicles is a cautionary tale for states in hot pursuit of high-tech manufacturing jobs. Think’s story illustrates how politicians so badly wanted to stimulate job growth that they showered it and the battery supplier with tax breaks and incentives while at the same time failing to determine whether there was a market for the car: a plastic two-seater with a top speed of about 65 miles an hour and a price tag approaching $42,000.
“Where’s the value?� Gregg Fore, an Elkhart recreational vehicle industry executive, said of Think. “I could buy a golf cart for five grand if that’s what I wanted to drive.�
With Japanese Li-ion batteries there is no reason why the petrol guts of almost any car cant be pulled out and a hood full of batteries and electric motor replace it. With a few mods.
YA DONT HAVE TO DESIGN A WHOLE NEW CAR.
But the 2013 Toyota Estima will prove the market direction is electric...full range, speed and rechargable anywhere and sophisticated.
Other than the owner retaining his sanity and wanting to keep a car that is useful.
.... until they can build a full size automobile that can perform at the same speeds and travel the same distance on a full charge as a tank of fuel and be cost competitive with a combustion engine auto you'll only see a few suckers buying these things. ask the folks in elkhart indiana.
Indiana’s foray into electric vehicles is a cautionary tale for states in hot pursuit of high-tech manufacturing jobs. Think’s story illustrates how politicians so badly wanted to stimulate job growth that they showered it and the battery supplier with tax breaks and incentives while at the same time failing to determine whether there was a market for the car: a plastic two-seater with a top speed of about 65 miles an hour and a price tag approaching $42,000.
“Where’s the value?� Gregg Fore, an Elkhart recreational vehicle industry executive, said of Think. “I could buy a golf cart for five grand if that’s what I wanted to drive.�
With Japanese Li-ion batteries there is no reason why the petrol guts of almost any car cant be pulled out and a hood full of batteries and electric motor replace it. With a few mods.
YA DONT HAVE TO DESIGN A WHOLE NEW CAR.
But the 2013 Toyota Estima will prove the market direction is electric...full range, speed and rechargable anywhere and sophisticated.
Other than the owner retaining his sanity and wanting to keep a car that is useful.
I dont see that being able to breath clean air and have quiter cars is a bad thing. Obviously some of you disagree.
one of my neighbors has one. Saw him unplugging it and drive off a few days ago. I was surprised at how not-quiet it was, most modern cars are pretty well muffled and quiet. I wonder if he has run out of juice and been towed home yet. How would that projected mileage work out for them if caught in, say, Los Angeles gridlock for a few hours
re: Volt sales fall in Januaryen>frfr>en By lookanlearn Comments: 5637, member since Sun Jun 10, 2007
On Fri Feb 03, 2012 06:49 AM
Edited by lookanlearn (80657) on 2012-02-03 07:10:57 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16686260
Fearless_Leader wrote:
one of my neighbors has one. Saw him unplugging it and drive off a few days ago. I was surprised at how not-quiet it was, most modern cars are pretty well muffled and quiet. I wonder if he has run out of juice and been towed home yet. How would that projected mileage work out for them if caught in, say, Los Angeles gridlock for a few hours
You assholes not putting solar panels on the roof yet?
re: Volt sales fall in Januaryen>frfr>en By flyindutchman Comments: 9761, member since Mon Jul 05, 2004
On Fri Feb 03, 2012 07:08 PM
flyindutchman wrote:
.... i wonder how much it will cost and how long it will take to jump an electric motor on a cold january evening?
...ya know, now that i mention it, for all the convenience of pulling into a station and plugging in for a quick recharge i can't say i've ever seen mentioned what the "charge" would be to charge an electric car. i suppose if enough people owned electric autos they would be at the mercy of the power companies
and wouldn't most of that clean energy used to charge those autos come from a coal fired plant?
re: Volt sales fall in Januaryen>frfr>en By lookanlearn Comments: 5637, member since Sun Jun 10, 2007
On Fri Feb 03, 2012 07:12 PM
Edited by lookanlearn (80657) on 2012-02-03 19:14:08 P.S.
flyindutchman wrote:
flyindutchman wrote:
.... i wonder how much it will cost and how long it will take to jump an electric motor on a cold january evening?
...ya know, now that i mention it, for all the convenience of pulling into a station and plugging in for a quick recharge i can't say i've ever seen mentioned what the "charge" would be to charge an electric car. i suppose if enough people owned electric autos they would be at the mercy of the power companies
and wouldn't most of that clean energy used to charge those autos come from a coal fired plant?
Coal rates refuelling an electric car costs less than two dollars.
Green energy costs about three times as much (once the infrastructure is in place).
Petrochemical companies dont want you to know that.
P.S.
My battery assist bicycle takes me 50Km and takes 30 minutes to re-charge (About 15cents).
re: Volt sales fall in Januaryen>frfr>en By Tattooed_Hoodlum Comments: 5021, member since Wed Apr 16, 2003
On Mon Feb 06, 2012 05:15 AM
Fact: Until an electric is competitively priced, has the same range, size, and utility as a gasoline vehicle, and can recharge in under 5 minutes from anywhere, they're just a play toy for the rich.
re: Volt sales fall in Januaryen>frfr>en By lookanlearn Comments: 5637, member since Sun Jun 10, 2007
On Mon Feb 06, 2012 05:33 AM
Tattooed_Hoodlum wrote:
Fact: Until an electric is competitively priced, has the same range, size, and utility as a gasoline vehicle, and can recharge in under 5 minutes from anywhere, they're just a play toy for the rich.
They will come about as gradually as Blu-Ray and 3D TVs
Until then...
Enjoy
