  World Forget Greece; its Portugal thatll destroy euro (karma: 3)
en>fr fr>en By jukinj3 Comments: 15063, member since Tue Apr 08, 2003On Thu Jan 26, 2012 02:53 PM
Greece is already bust and its default is already priced into the market. But Portugal is in precisely the same position, just on a longer fuse. It too is sliding toward an inevitable default on its debts and when it does so, it will deliver a terminal political blow to the single currency, and inflict damage on the European banking system that may well prove catastrophic.
When the eurocrats and Portuguese politicians come out and say that everything is fine in Portugal we will all know that the euro has died.
Forget Greece; its Portugal thatll destroy euro
Commentary: One default is an accident; two is a systemic crisis
By Matthew Lynn
LONDON (MarketWatch) It is a long-time since Portugal played a decisive role in world history. The Treaty of Tordesillas, which divided the non-European world up between Spain and Portugal in 1494, was probably its last major contribution, and even that did not end very happily.
But 2012 could be the year Portugal explodes onto the world stage again. How? By blowing up the euro.
Greece is already bust and its default is already priced into the market. But Portugal is in precisely the same position, just on a longer fuse. It too is sliding toward an inevitable default on its debts and when it does so, it will deliver a terminal political blow to the single currency, and inflict damage on the European banking system that may well prove catastrophic.
We have known for some time of course that Portugal was in trouble. Back in May last year it became the third euro-zone country that had to be rescued. After bond yields soared up past the crucial 7% level it was forced to ask for a bailout package worth 79 billion euros. The International Monetary Fund and the European Union moved in with the formula they had honed to such perfection in Greece big tax raises, spending cuts, wage cuts, and a little bit of structural reform. The country one of the poorest members of the European Union, with a gross domestic product per capita of only $21,000, significantly less than Greeces $26,000 was set a target of reducing its deficit to 4.5% in 2012 and 3% in 2013.
So hows it going? About as well as it did in Greece which is to say, not very well at all. The Greek economy is forecast to shrink by 6% this year, and Portugal is not very far behind Citigroup is predicting the economy will contract by 5.7% in 2012 and another 3% in 2013.
Rising taxes are pushing more and more of the economy off the books. A study for Porto University found that the shadow economy, which doesnt pay any tax, grew by 2.5% last year, and now accounts for a quarter of Portuguese economic activity. There is no point in expecting that to change any time soon. Portuguese companies simply cant survive paying the tax rates now imposed on them.
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re: Forget Greece; its Portugal thatll destroy euro (karma: 2)
en>fr fr>en By SevenSeventeen Comments: 13796, member since Tue Apr 22, 2003On Thu Jan 26, 2012 03:15 PM
Wow, if it can happen to Portugal it could happen to....Fwance
Portugal is the world's dusty closet for cheap plastic shoes and cork.....and.....ahhhh.......wait....yeah - cheap shoes and cork.
But I don't this will happen because Simple tells me it's a worst case and even if it does happen it's years in the future
Mehhh, I think by summer Eurarabia will be on fire. |
re: Forget Greece; its Portugal thatll destroy euro (karma: 3)
en>fr fr>en By balls Comments: 26411, member since Tue Aug 24, 2004On Thu Jan 26, 2012 03:19 PM
It is a long-time since _______ played a decisive role in world history
Fill in your euromonkey trash heap of choice. |
re: Forget Greece; its Portugal thatll destroy euro (karma: 2)
en>fr fr>en By OldLyme Comments: 35765, member since Fri Jun 04, 2004On Thu Jan 26, 2012 05:39 PM
I was amazed a few years back in Portugal.
That place is all celtic hillbillies in the mountains, and colonial africa refugees on the coast. |
re: Forget Greece; its Portugal thatll destroy euro (karma: 2)
en>fr fr>en By simplefrench Comments: 64117, member since Wed Mar 19, 2003On Thu Jan 26, 2012 05:50 PM
"Mehhh, I think by summer Eurarabia will be on fire."
If i believed FFuckers here,europe would already be dead. |
re: Forget Greece; its Portugal thatll destroy euro (karma: 2)
en>fr fr>en By SevenSeventeen Comments: 13796, member since Tue Apr 22, 2003On Thu Jan 26, 2012 05:59 PM
"That place is all celtic hillbillies in the mountains, and colonial africa refugees on the coast"
Sounds like New England to moi  |
re: Forget Greece; its Portugal thatll destroy euro (karma: 2)
en>fr fr>en By VAVD Comments: 2713, member since Wed Nov 25, 2009On Thu Jan 26, 2012 06:04 PM
simplefrench wrote:
"Mehhh, I think by summer Eurarabia will be on fire."
If i believed FFuckers here,europe would already be dead.
Europe is a zombie. It's just a matter of the markets putting a round in its head. |
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re: Forget Greece; its Portugal thatll destroy euro (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By lookanlearn Comments: 5430, member since Sun Jun 10, 2007On Thu Jan 26, 2012 06:04 PM
Edited by lookanlearn (80657) on 2012-01-26 18:05:59 .
Portugal may be in trouble;@but it plays a relatively insignificant part of the Euro crisis; insofar as its economy and debt goes, it is not a big player.
The UK is getting into the same ammount of trouble as Portugal with its 1 TRILLION of deficit this year.
www.telegraph.co.uk . . .
An the niggers/paki welfare paradise is not part of the euro; but it will affect its pressure down to compete with China on price. |
re: Forget Greece; its Portugal thatll destroy euro (karma: 2)
en>fr fr>en By VAVD Comments: 2713, member since Wed Nov 25, 2009On Thu Jan 26, 2012 06:16 PM
lookanlearn wrote:
Portugal may be in trouble;@but it plays a relatively insignificant part of the Euro crisis; insofar as its economy and debt goes, it is not a big player.
Perhaps Portugal isn't that significant a portion of the overall European economy. Nor is Greece, considered in isolation. But when you start adding Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Italy, etc, etc, etc, ad nauseum, it begins adding up. Like the late U.S. Senator Dirksen said, " A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking about real money".
I suspect this year will bring to our ears the sound of the death rattle in Europe's dying throat. I, for one, welcome it. Europe's day has long since passed, and its pathetic attempts to feign relevance will soon be mercifully ended. |
re: Forget Greece; its Portugal thatll destroy euro (karma: 2)
en>fr fr>en By OldLyme Comments: 35765, member since Fri Jun 04, 2004On Thu Jan 26, 2012 06:24 PM
SevenSeventeen wrote:
"That place is all celtic hillbillies in the mountains, and colonial africa refugees on the coast"
Sounds like New England to moi 
Ouch!
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re: Forget Greece; its Portugal thatll destroy euro en>fr fr>en By lookanlearn Comments: 5430, member since Sun Jun 10, 2007On Thu Jan 26, 2012 06:28 PM
The real trick will be;-
"how will the politicians convince the real residents of Europe to keep giving more and more welfare and funding to all the niggers and pakis on the backs of the middle class taxpayer."
You have to lower living standards for the majority to fund all the leeches. How popular would that be?
Cutting ALL foreign aid is a start.
When you cut any and all economical aid to undesirables; then you can get the euro back on track.
P.S.
Those who intergrate rather than immigrate are diferent. That will be a tough nut to crack...when the riots come. Olympic time.
The UK queens Jubilee will be spoiled; it is known. |
re: Forget Greece; its Portugal thatll destroy euro en>fr fr>en By djdv Comments: 3536, member since Mon Jul 10, 2006On Thu Jan 26, 2012 06:51 PM
 Funny how the arab cock lovers of shitbagistan are like crickets on this issue.
FUCK france! |
re: Forget Greece; its Portugal thatll destroy euro en>fr fr>en By balls Comments: 26411, member since Tue Aug 24, 2004On Fri Jan 27, 2012 08:19 AM
simplefrench wrote:
"Mehhh, I think by summer Eurarabia will be on fire."
If i believed FFuckers here,europe would already be dead.
No, you stupid lying sack of euro shit. No one said that. If they did, post a link.
EVERYONE (except you) knows that there will be no "currency" called a "euro" in 2 years.
Grow up, and brace yourself. |
re: Forget Greece; its Portugal thatll destroy euro en>fr fr>en By LTKilling Comments: 7490, member since Sun Aug 14, 2005On Fri Jan 27, 2012 09:29 AM
long live the PORTUGUESE EMPIRE
FUCK THE CARNATION REVOLUTION
the Portuguese where kicking ass and those faggot leftist stopped the war
also AMERICA SUPPORTED the niggers in Africa, wtf bastards |
re: Forget Greece; its Portugal thatll destroy euro en>fr fr>en By simplefrench Comments: 64117, member since Wed Mar 19, 2003On Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:12 AM
"EVERYONE (except you) knows that there will be no "currency" called a "euro" in 2 years"
I take the bet! |
re: Forget Greece; its Portugal thatll destroy euro en>fr fr>en By Bat2 Comments: 2324, member since Wed May 25, 2011On Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:14 AM
Simple, don't take bets you can't cover. In vegas that gets your head in a vice. |