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  UK Cops seize toys; Brit peasants grovel en>fr fr>en By PopsFrost Comments: 10101, member since Mon Jan 21, 2008On Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:08 AM
Mr Ashley-Miller, who runs the gift shop The Present Finder, was stunned when officers descended on his warehouse and confiscated £1,140 of stock.
They were seized after someone saw the toys on sale on The Present Finder's website and made a complaint to firearms police.
It must suck to be a peasant who has to grovel before Prince Chaz.
Police have been accused of getting their sums wrong when they swooped on a shopkeeper's business and seized a cache of gun-shaped calculators - because they feared they could be used in a robbery.
The 30 calculators were among a haul of toy guns confiscated by police in a raid on a warehouse in Sherborne, Dorset, which is owned by shopkeeper Mark Ashley Miller.
Mr Ashley-Miller, who runs the gift shop The Present Finder, was stunned when officers descended on his warehouse and confiscated £1,140 of stock.
They were seized after someone saw the toys on sale on The Present Finder's website and made a complaint to firearms police.
Detectives are currently in the process of assessing the 'weapons' to decide whether they must be destroyed or returned to the shop.
The £6.50 'gun' calculator is in the form of a black pistol but clearly has a calculator keypad on the butt and an LCD display on the barrel. The user has to pull the trigger to calculate their sum.
There is an image of James Bond on the packaging along with the slogans ‘the quantum of sums’, ‘live and let divide’ and ‘licence to add up.’
Mr Ashley-Miller said two ‘burly’ police officers turned up at his premises and confiscated the toys, telling him it was illegal to sell a realistic imitation firearm under the Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006 before carrying £1,140 worth of stock to their police car.
The 49-year-old, who has run The Present Finder in Sherborne with his wife Fiona for 11 years, said: 'It seems to me like an enormous waste of police time. We have been selling these toys for more than a year and we’ve never had any complaints about them.
'As far as I know they have never been mistaken for a real weapon. They are toys. They’re a bit silly and a bit quirky and children like them.
'When two burly policemen turned up in uniform and said ‘hand them over,’ we thought it must be a joke at first.
'There was no discussion, no questions at all - they just said they were taking them away. They just picked them up from the shop and put them in the boot of their car.
'They didn’t seem to know what they were going to do with them and I don’t even know if they left a receipt. They said there had been a complaint and due to the nature of it - that we were selling dangerous weapons - they were going to have to seize them.
'It left us aghast. It just seems a waste of time for police to come all the way out to seize perfectly legal, innocent toys. We’ve told our suppliers and they were pretty flabbergasted as well.
'If these toys are going to be classified as dangerous weapons then are we going to have to go back to all the poor children who got them for Christmas and say "sorry you may be having fun but we’re going to have to take that away from you"?'
The father-of-two said he did not know if and when he was going to get his stock back.
As well as the 6.50 calculator guns, the police also seized 10 toy shotguns that retail at 89.99 pounds each.
Tanya Prangnell, general manager of the shop, said: 'The police told us that in a lot of burglaries, a fake gun is used.'
Sergeant Ged Want, from Sherborne Police, said: 'Officers attended the Present Finder to liaise with staff and the two products were seized by us.
'We are in the process of liaising with our firearms licensing department in Dorchester to confirm the exact details of those weapons.
'It has not yet been decided how we are going to take it forward. The actual gun does look quite realistic. It may be that, on receipt of advice, we find there’s not a problem and they can be returned.
'Or they may be committing an offence. It’s always difficult to work out if our time is being wasted.
'If we have concerns over a potential imitation weapon then we have to act. If it gets in the hands of someone who wants to use it in an illegal act, then it’s not wasting our time.'
An advert for the gun calculator on the Present Finder website reads: 'Be a Special Ops operative "licensed to add up" in the office with the coolest, fully working novelty gun-shaped calculator.
'With the special ops gun calculator, your friends and work colleagues will be envious as you strut your stuff around the office, ready to whip out your "piece" when someone is in need of a nifty calculation, an incredibly nifty mathematical instrument!'
The toys have been temporarily removed from sale, although 370 of them have already been bought by customers. 12 Replies to Cops seize toys; Brit peasants grovel | re: Cops seize toys; Brit peasants grovel en>fr fr>en By TheMadPoet  Comments: 35453, member since Mon Nov 07, 2005On Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:15 AM
PopsFrost wrote:
Police have been accused of getting their sums wrong when they swooped on a shopkeeper's business and seized a cache of gun-shaped calculators - because they feared they could be used in a robbery.
The 30 calculators were among a haul of toy guns confiscated by police in a raid on a warehouse in Sherborne, Dorset, which is owned by shopkeeper Mark Ashley Miller.
Mr Ashley-Miller, who runs the gift shop The Present Finder, was stunned when officers descended on his warehouse and confiscated £1,140 of stock.
They were seized after someone saw the toys on sale on The Present Finder's website and made a complaint to firearms police.
Detectives are currently in the process of assessing the 'weapons' to decide whether they must be destroyed or returned to the shop.
The £6.50 'gun' calculator is in the form of a black pistol but clearly has a calculator keypad on the butt and an LCD display on the barrel. The user has to pull the trigger to calculate their sum.
There is an image of James Bond on the packaging along with the slogans ‘the quantum of sums’, ‘live and let divide’ and ‘licence to add up.’
Mr Ashley-Miller said two ‘burly’ police officers turned up at his premises and confiscated the toys, telling him it was illegal to sell a realistic imitation firearm under the Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006 before carrying £1,140 worth of stock to their police car.
The 49-year-old, who has run The Present Finder in Sherborne with his wife Fiona for 11 years, said: 'It seems to me like an enormous waste of police time. We have been selling these toys for more than a year and we’ve never had any complaints about them.
'As far as I know they have never been mistaken for a real weapon. They are toys. They’re a bit silly and a bit quirky and children like them.
'When two burly policemen turned up in uniform and said ‘hand them over,’ we thought it must be a joke at first.
'There was no discussion, no questions at all - they just said they were taking them away. They just picked them up from the shop and put them in the boot of their car.
'They didn’t seem to know what they were going to do with them and I don’t even know if they left a receipt. They said there had been a complaint and due to the nature of it - that we were selling dangerous weapons - they were going to have to seize them.
'It left us aghast. It just seems a waste of time for police to come all the way out to seize perfectly legal, innocent toys. We’ve told our suppliers and they were pretty flabbergasted as well.
'If these toys are going to be classified as dangerous weapons then are we going to have to go back to all the poor children who got them for Christmas and say "sorry you may be having fun but we’re going to have to take that away from you"?'
The father-of-two said he did not know if and when he was going to get his stock back.
As well as the 6.50 calculator guns, the police also seized 10 toy shotguns that retail at 89.99 pounds each.
Tanya Prangnell, general manager of the shop, said: 'The police told us that in a lot of burglaries, a fake gun is used.'
Sergeant Ged Want, from Sherborne Police, said: 'Officers attended the Present Finder to liaise with staff and the two products were seized by us.
'We are in the process of liaising with our firearms licensing department in Dorchester to confirm the exact details of those weapons.
'It has not yet been decided how we are going to take it forward. The actual gun does look quite realistic. It may be that, on receipt of advice, we find there’s not a problem and they can be returned.
'Or they may be committing an offence. It’s always difficult to work out if our time is being wasted.
'If we have concerns over a potential imitation weapon then we have to act. If it gets in the hands of someone who wants to use it in an illegal act, then it’s not wasting our time.'
An advert for the gun calculator on the Present Finder website reads: 'Be a Special Ops operative "licensed to add up" in the office with the coolest, fully working novelty gun-shaped calculator.
'With the special ops gun calculator, your friends and work colleagues will be envious as you strut your stuff around the office, ready to whip out your "piece" when someone is in need of a nifty calculation, an incredibly nifty mathematical instrument!'
The toys have been temporarily removed from sale, although 370 of them have already been bought by customers.
Just finish them off all around, Estrogen shots for everyone, mandate it now! | re: Cops seize toys; Brit peasants grovel en>fr fr>en By pippin Comments: 6043, member since Mon Jan 19, 2009On Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:04 AM
There is a risk of being taken out by an Armed Response Unit.
A chap came out of a pub with a chair leg in a shopping bag and wos shot dead. He probably believed they were challenging someone else in the vicinity and ignored the command. When we were kids we had some very realistic cap guns, but then gun crime in Britain hardly existed. The plod of today have become jittery, to add to there known stupidity.  | re: Cops seize toys; Brit peasants grovel en>fr fr>en By Fearless_Leader Comments: 20230, member since Thu Dec 09, 2004On Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:07 AM
peasants | re: Cops seize toys; Brit peasants grovel (karma: 3)
en>fr fr>en By PopsFrost Comments: 10101, member since Mon Jan 21, 2008On Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:22 PM
pippin wrote:
The plod of today have become jittery, to add to there known stupidity. 
They quiver before their muslim masters. Kinda like Pippin around the Justin Bieber posters. | re: Cops seize toys; Brit peasants grovel en>fr fr>en By Mournblade Comments: 454, member since Sat Oct 24, 2009On Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:50 PM
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re: Cops seize toys; Brit peasants grovel en>fr fr>en By jukinj3 Comments: 15062, member since Tue Apr 08, 2003On Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:59 PM
Churchill is spinning in his grave thinking of all the sacrifice of WWII resulted in a far worse state than if the Nazis had won. | re: Cops seize toys; Brit peasants grovel en>fr fr>en By Bat2 Comments: 2311, member since Wed May 25, 2011On Thu Jan 26, 2012 01:33 PM
 I had to get permits to use these rubber guns in my security and defense classes I teach in mexico. Now I just use the all red or yellow ones to avoid hassles. Toy guns are mostly gone in Mexico also. Dipshits. | re: Cops seize toys; Brit peasants grovel (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By whizz2  Comments: 18643, member since Wed Apr 23, 2003On Thu Jan 26, 2012 02:34 PM
Bat2 wrote:
I had to get permits to use these rubber guns in my security and defense classes I teach in mexico. Now I just use the all red or yellow ones to avoid hassles.
You mean ducks, right? | re: Cops seize toys; Brit peasants grovel (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By Bat2 Comments: 2311, member since Wed May 25, 2011On Thu Jan 26, 2012 04:23 PM
Ducks are still legal in mexico. Don't tell pippin, he will want to go and fuck one. | re: Cops seize toys; Brit peasants grovel (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By OldLyme Comments: 35749, member since Fri Jun 04, 2004On Thu Jan 26, 2012 04:35 PM
 "Methinks" there are dupes about!
Gathering of the morans.
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en>fr fr>en By OldLyme Comments: 35749, member since Fri Jun 04, 2004On Thu Jan 26, 2012 04:51 PM
whizz2 wrote:
Bat2 wrote:
I had to get permits to use these rubber guns in my security and defense classes I teach in mexico. Now I just use the all red or yellow ones to avoid hassles.
You mean ducks, right?
What do french ducks say?
"matoube!" | re: Cops seize toys; Brit peasants grovel en>fr fr>en By JFrum Comments: 1072, member since Sat Nov 19, 2011On Thu Jan 26, 2012 04:54 PM
 All the decent Brits left for the colonies.
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