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re: france suspending training operations for Afghan troops after 4 french soldiers killed en>fr fr>en
By Armonteutmaronne Comments: 9527, member since Sun May 20, 2007
On Sun Jan 22, 2012 04:17 AM
Les chamois afghans mouillés dans l'attentat contre nos militaires

Des soldats français ont encore perdu la vie dans le montagneux Afghanistan. Un combattant taliban isolé et infiltré dans la police afghane est responsable de ce terrible attentat mais, d'après nos sources bien informées, il n'a pas agi seul !.
Ces sources nous ont assuré de la présence sur place d'un groupuscule de chamois activistes qui militent pour la fin de la guerre et le retour des trekkeurs dans la montagne afghane.

Depuis le début de la guerre et la fin du tourisme sportif, les chamois locaux ont perdu leurs principaux fournisseurs de nourriture. Une diète forcée à laquelle ils veulent mettre un terme. D'ordinaire les chamois sont du côté des occidentaux qui leurs laissent régulièrement des morceaux de leur ration et veulent aider au rétablissement de la démocratie. Donc de l'économie de marché et du tourisme.

Alors que s'est-il passé ce vendredi matin ? C'est une erreur de traduction qui est à l'origine de la tragédie. Les chamois afghans ont cru avoir affaire à des chasseurs alpins. Expression qu'on leur a traduite mot à mot sans préciser ce qu'il en était réellement. Les chefs du groupe ont donc pensé que des chasseurs de chamois alpins étaient venus pour les exterminer. La réaction a été immédiate et mortelle, le taliban étant l'instrument de cette vengeance préventive.

Une terrible méprise qui pourrait avoir de graves conséquences pour les chamois français. Claude Gluéant, sinistre de la haine intérieure et des croisades, prépare d'ores et déjà un texte demandant l'expulsion de l'espèce présente sur le territoire : "un chamois reste un chamois, même français de souche, il n'est pas question de garder sur le territoire national des agents vendus aux ennemis de la France".
re: france suspending training operations for Afghan troops after 4 french soldiers killed (karma: 4)  en>fr fr>en
By francois Comments: 1874, member since Sat Oct 13, 2007
On Sun Jan 22, 2012 05:17 AM
Lord_Bullshithouse wrote:

The only reason you French trash went to Afghanistan is because of the invoking of Article 5 of the Washington Treaty concerning NATO...... which requires NATO members to contribute when a member state is attacked.


In 2001, article 5 didn't apply to France.

Check your datas, mister-I-know-everything.
re: france suspending training operations for Afghan troops after 4 french soldiers killed en>fr fr>en
By lookanlearn Comments: 6458, member since Sun Jun 10, 2007
On Sun Jan 22, 2012 05:21 AM
Edited by lookanlearn (80657) on 2012-01-22 05:26:39 Fuck orf
You discuss the tactics; but do not question the REAL motive to be in the war.





Bullshit 9/11 Big Con Cheney Halliburton and the big fix
re: france suspending training operations for Afghan troops after 4 french soldiers killed (karma: 3)  en>fr fr>en
By francois Comments: 1874, member since Sat Oct 13, 2007
On Sun Jan 22, 2012 05:22 AM
Edited by francois (80995) on 2012-01-22 05:23:17
Lord_Butt wrote:

-- Roosevelt to Churchill in a letter dated June 17, 1943

"I am fed up with de Gaulle ... I am absolutely convinced that he has been and is now injuring our war effort and that he is a very dangerous threat to us. ... I agree with you that he likes neither the British nor the Americans and that he would double-cross both of us at the first opportunity."


LOL ! I like this one.

Roosevelt chose Giraud against De Gaulle.....He lost ! :D

Sore loser....
re: france suspending training operations for Afghan troops after 4 french soldiers killed en>fr fr>en
By NikosAliagas Comments: 1385, member since Sun Jul 15, 2007
On Sun Jan 22, 2012 06:49 AM
Lord_Buckhouse wrote:

simplefrench wrote:

"As I said earlier the French are unreliable and your comments prove it. When the going gets tough you can expect the French to run. So don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. It's the French way."


The french way is the following one :We have not been attacked in our territory. We did not know attacks because French police avoided them all. And nevertheless, we are in afghanistan.

We are too nice. Do you understand this time ?

It is not our war
You are looking for an excuse to leave. Then go. It is the French way to cut and run. Be true to your nature.


What exactly have you been doing in Iraq ?
re: france suspending training operations for Afghan troops after 4 french soldiers killed en>fr fr>en
By Lord_Buckhouse Comments: 4425, member since Wed May 27, 2009
On Sun Jan 22, 2012 06:57 AM
Cazeilles posted:

Sad to see you have no understanding. Still living in parents house ? How old are you ? You must be in your early 20s.
You were saying something about having no argument. I love exposing French fraud.
re: france suspending training operations for Afghan troops after 4 french soldiers killed en>fr fr>en
By Lord_Buckhouse Comments: 4425, member since Wed May 27, 2009
On Sun Jan 22, 2012 07:03 AM
francois wrote:

Lord_Butt wrote:

-- Roosevelt to Churchill in a letter dated June 17, 1943

"I am fed up with de Gaulle ... I am absolutely convinced that he has been and is now injuring our war effort and that he is a very dangerous threat to us. ... I agree with you that he likes neither the British nor the Americans and that he would double-cross both of us at the first opportunity."


LOL ! I like this one.

Roosevelt chose Giraud against De Gaulle.....He lost ! :D

Sore loser....
Let me correct you my little French piglet. It was you people that were beaten in the war and had to have others (Anglos)rescue you. Did you enjoy your French women once the Germans were done with them?
re: france suspending training operations for Afghan troops after 4 french soldiers killed en>fr fr>en
By Lord_Buckhouse Comments: 4425, member since Wed May 27, 2009
On Sun Jan 22, 2012 07:07 AM
francois wrote:

Lord_Bullshithouse wrote:

The only reason you French trash went to Afghanistan is because of the invoking of Article 5 of the Washington Treaty concerning NATO...... which requires NATO members to contribute when a member state is attacked.


In 2001, article 5 didn't apply to France.

Check your datas, mister-I-know-everything.
When you are cowards and/or "allies" such as the French no article ever means anything.
re: france suspending training operations for Afghan troops after 4 french soldiers killed (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By Cazeilles Comments: 14160, member since Wed Apr 09, 2003
On Sun Jan 22, 2012 09:18 AM
He quoted my first sentence and dismiss the rest. I think Lord_Bathhouse has got spanking enough for the incoming week.
re: france suspending training operations for Afghan troops after 4 french soldiers killed (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By US_Kindergarden Comments: 574, member since Mon Mar 24, 2008
On Sun Jan 22, 2012 09:39 AM
The Afghan soldier killed the french after he saws the videos of US soldiers urinating on dead talibans :

www.google.com . . .

So, US FFuckers. Still proud of yourself ?
re: france suspending training operations for Afghan troops after 4 french soldiers killed (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By simplefrench Comments: 64594, member since Wed Mar 19, 2003
On Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:08 AM
The motto of Buckhouse is "europe is dying". There is nothing to do with him...
re: france suspending training operations for Afghan troops after 4 french soldiers killed (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By EuropeIsOurs Comments: 1113, member since Wed Jul 15, 2009
On Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:30 AM
France stays until the end anyway.

Juppé said it yesterday.
re: france suspending training operations for Afghan troops after 4 french soldiers killed en>fr fr>en
By Lord_Buckhouse Comments: 4425, member since Wed May 27, 2009
On Sun Jan 22, 2012 02:07 PM
You can always tell when you have hit home with the French here. They all come out of the woodword to defend the "honor" of France. You fools have no honor.

"The french army is in Afghanistan at the service of the Afghans against terrorism and against the Taliban. The french army is not in Afghanistan so that Afghan soldiers can shoot at them," Sarkozy said.

Translation.... The enemy won't fight fair so it's time to cut and run.

How typcial of the war losing French. What clowns you are. No wonder the French have lost so many wars.
re: france suspending training operations for Afghan troops after 4 french soldiers killed en>fr fr>en
By Cazeilles Comments: 14160, member since Wed Apr 09, 2003
On Sun Jan 22, 2012 03:05 PM
Lord_Buckhouse wrote:

You can always tell when you have hit home with the French here. They all come out of the woodword to defend the "honor" of France. You fools have no honor.

"The french army is in Afghanistan at the service of the Afghans against terrorism and against the Taliban. The french army is not in Afghanistan so that Afghan soldiers can shoot at them," Sarkozy said.

Translation.... The enemy won't fight fair so it's time to cut and run.

How typcial of the war losing French. What clowns you are. No wonder the French have lost so many wars.


Did you serve ?

Can you come with one argument to keep NATO troops in Afghanistan ?
re: france suspending training operations for Afghan troops after 4 french soldiers killed (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By jerrylewissux Comments: 18878, member since Sun Mar 09, 2003
On Sun Jan 22, 2012 03:42 PM
Cazeilles wrote:



Can you come with one argument to keep NATO troops in Afghanistan ?


Pakistan has nukes, a politically unstable government, and islamic fanatics chomping at the bit.

Iran has islamic fanatics as a government, a mentally unstable "president" and they are building nukes.

You frogs of course will be of no use in any scenario but NATO would be fools to give up Afghanistan now.
re: france suspending training operations for Afghan troops after 4 french soldiers killed en>fr fr>en
By Cazeilles Comments: 14160, member since Wed Apr 09, 2003
On Sun Jan 22, 2012 03:49 PM
Edited by Cazeilles (62399) on 2012-01-22 15:51:18
jerrylewissux wrote:

Cazeilles wrote:



Can you come with one argument to keep NATO troops in Afghanistan ?


Pakistan has nukes, a politically unstable government, and islamic fanatics chomping at the bit.

Iran has islamic fanatics as a government, a mentally unstable "president" and they are building nukes.

You frogs of course will be of no use in any scenario but NATO would be fools to give up Afghanistan now.


Iran has already much to do with Kurdistan and Syria. Pakistan is supposed to be a US ally in the area. Am I wrong ?

We are not talking about an eventuality here. It's going to happen, it's already happening. Talibans will be part of the next Afghan government. Hamid Karzai is negotiating with them with White House blessing. In this situation, I don't want to see any French soldiers die for a doomed country.

Fuck off and bring them back home.
re: france suspending training operations for Afghan troops after 4 french soldiers killed en>fr fr>en
By jerrylewissux Comments: 18878, member since Sun Mar 09, 2003
On Sun Jan 22, 2012 04:04 PM
Iran has already much to do with Kurdistan and Syria. Pakistan is supposed to be a US ally in the area. Am I wrong ?


Pakistan's government is barely hanging on to power, ally or not.
If they fall, what will India do? Who will use military power to keep those nukes from the Taliban? Who has plan with the current government to do just that? The french?

We are not talking about an eventuality here. It's going to happen, it's already happening. Talibans will be part of the next Afghan government. Hamid Karzai is negotiating with them with White House blessing. In this situation, I don't want to see any French soldiers die for a doomed country.


Then leave! Just don't be such pussies about it.
Boo hoo! They are fighting unfair!
At least when you frogs bailed from enforcing Saddam's no fly zone you didn't whine like little girls about it.

Fuck off and bring them back home.


You know, this conversation would be moot if not for our moron in chief. Cutting from Iraq without agreements for staging troops was very stupid.

To do so for his political reasons is almost treasonous.
re: france suspending training operations for Afghan troops after 4 french soldiers killed en>fr fr>en
By Cazeilles Comments: 14160, member since Wed Apr 09, 2003
On Sun Jan 22, 2012 04:13 PM
jerrylewissux wrote:


To do so for his political reasons is almost treasonous.


That's what I am saying. With Obama and his Afghan agenda, I don't want to see any French die for a fucked up country.
re: france suspending training operations for Afghan troops after 4 french soldiers killed en>fr fr>en
By NikosAliagas Comments: 1385, member since Sun Jul 15, 2007
On Sun Jan 22, 2012 04:29 PM
Edited by NikosAliagas (80747) on 2012-01-22 16:30:10
Cazeilles wrote:

Pakistan is supposed to be a US ally in the area. Am I wrong ?


You're kind of wrong.

The Pakis are nuts since a US drone shot 25 of their guys in a friendly fire incident due to errors by US officers.

Pakistan friendly fire deaths were due to "errors" by US officers

American officers gave the wrong coordinates to their Pakistani counterparts as they sought clearance for the air strike that killed 24 friendly troops last weekend, admit officials in both countries.

www.telegraph.co.uk . . .


re: france suspending training operations for Afghan troops after 4 french soldiers killed (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By jerrylewissux Comments: 18878, member since Sun Mar 09, 2003
On Sun Jan 22, 2012 04:45 PM
That's what I am saying. With Obama and his Afghan agenda, I don't want to see any French die for a fucked up country.


Obama's agenda IS to cut and run Caz, he's set the date and sent out the invitations well in advance.

You must understand, his re-election is far more important than security concerns or US troops. Much less french troops.
re: france suspending training operations for Afghan troops after 4 french soldiers killed (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By malbarre Comments: 24133, member since Wed Aug 24, 2005
On Sun Jan 22, 2012 05:25 PM
Jerry, I do agree with most of your arguments. But we can't act no more like in 1912. Why am I talking about 1912? Because it was the last time, to my knowledge, that a western country have "pacified" definitively a rebellion in a such typology of warfare. In Moroco, like the French general Charles Mangin dit it. He locked the whole area of the rebellion. He destroyed with the artillerey EVERY village. And let the black troops finish the job. He got here the nickname of "butcher".

Do you think it is possible to act in 2012 like in 1912?

We can't win this war because we're unable to act like in 1912. You know it. But we must not lose this fight. Time to leave as "victor", and I hope that us, the French, will keep our word. But we don't have the choice. It is impossible to leave in only one year. I guess we will just stop to train Afghan Kandaks.

So. Leave this country in 2014. But everytime they piss us off, let strafe the western air forces from our foreign bases and let the local oponents do the job on ground like we did in Libya last year. This is a bunch of savages and you can't do nothing against that fact.
re: france suspending training operations for Afghan troops after 4 french soldiers killed (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By Nappybonesapart Comments: 16500, member since Fri Aug 27, 2004
On Sun Jan 22, 2012 05:34 PM
Mulberry, for your knowledge
Malaya 1950s Commonwealth vs commies. commies lost
Oman to 1976, Rosbifs again
re: france suspending training operations for Afghan troops after 4 french soldiers killed (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By malbarre Comments: 24133, member since Wed Aug 24, 2005
On Sun Jan 22, 2012 05:48 PM
Nappybonesapart wrote:

Mulberry, for your knowledge
Malaya 1950s Commonwealth vs commies. commies lost
Oman to 1976, Rosbifs again
Possible for Malaya. Put some Gurkhas in a muckup and everybody become nice :) About the Dhofar Rebellion (I guess you're talking about it?), it is located to a few people.

In this sens, we could talk about the Setif rebellion in Algeria, in 1945 or... The War of Algeria. Military won, politically lost. The american generals studied it again in 2005 during the Iraqi insurgency and concluded it was impossible to act like the French did. 50 years after, it is always a trauma for the French and they didn't want a such trauma for the American people.
re: france suspending training operations for Afghan troops after 4 french soldiers killed en>fr fr>en
By Karl_galster Comments: 11263, member since Tue Jul 20, 2004
On Sun Jan 22, 2012 05:59 PM
That's a sad post for four soldiers killed fighting in afghanistan.

sorry no k for that one.
re: france suspending training operations for Afghan troops after 4 french soldiers killed en>fr fr>en
By malbarre Comments: 24133, member since Wed Aug 24, 2005
On Sun Jan 22, 2012 06:43 PM
Karl_galster wrote:

That's a sad post for four soldiers killed fighting in afghanistan.

sorry no k for that one.
And you're right.
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