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en>fr fr>en By martsy Comments: 2685, member since Mon May 19, 2003On Wed Jan 18, 2012 06:33 AM
The Empire of Evil (and Lie) is still hiding the truth about the fate of WII HERO.
New evidence backs claims KGB stopped probe into Holocaust hero
Raoul Wallenberg, who saved thousands of Jews from Nazis, was said to have been executed on July 17, 1947, but unverified witness accounts and newly uncovered document suggest he may have lived beyond that date.
STOCKHOLM - A newly found Swedish document shows how the KGB intervened in the early 1990s to stop an investigation into World War II hero Raoul Wallenberg's fate, two U.S.-based researchers said Monday.
The Swedish diplomat, who would have turned 100 this year, is credited with rescuing tens of thousands of Hungarian Jews from the Nazis. He disappeared after being arrested in Hungary by the Soviet Red Army in 1945.
The Russians have said he was executed on July 17, 1947, but unverified witness accounts and newly uncovered evidence suggest he may have lived beyond that date.
Wallenberg researchers were hoping that key pieces of the puzzle would emerge when an international commission was granted access to Soviet prison records as the communist rule was heading toward its end.
But a document from the Swedish Foreign Ministry supports claims that the KGB - the former Soviet secret police and intelligence agency - acted to obstruct that effort, said German researcher Susanne Berger, who consulted a Swedish-Russian working group that conducted a 10-year investigation until 2001.
New evidence backs claims KGB stopped probe into Holocaust hero
Raoul Wallenberg, who saved thousands of Jews from Nazis, was said to have been executed on July 17, 1947, but unverified witness accounts and newly uncovered document suggest he may have lived beyond that date.
By The Associated Press Tags: Jewish World Holocaust Nazi
Wallenberg researchers were hoping that key pieces of the puzzle would emerge when an international commission was granted access to Soviet prison records as the communist rule was heading toward its end.
But a document from the Swedish Foreign Ministry supports claims that the KGB - the former Soviet secret police and intelligence agency - acted to obstruct that effort, said German researcher Susanne Berger, who consulted a Swedish-Russian working group that conducted a 10-year investigation until 2001.
Raoul Wallenberg
Nina Lagergren tours a photo exhibition of her brother, the Swedish diplomat Raoul Wallenberg, in Stockholm, Sweden in December 2011.
Photo by: AP
The September 16, 1991, memorandum from the Swedish Embassy in Moscow cites the former head of the Soviet "Special Archive," Anatoly Prokopenko, as telling Swedish diplomats that the KGB instructed him to stop a search for documents by researchers working for the first International Wallenberg Commission.
Prokopenko also said the KGB wanted copies of all documents the researchers had already viewed, according to the memo, which was made available by Berger. Its authenticity was confirmed by the Foreign Ministry.
Berger said the document was significant because it illustrates how since the end of the Cold War researchers have struggled to get access to crucial documents from Soviet archives.
"The action in 1991 has, unfortunately, proved symptomatic, rather than an exception to the rule," Berger said. "Twenty years later, we are still facing this fundamental problem."
Prokopenko said the researchers had been euphoric when they found an archive document on Wallenberg's transfer from one Soviet prison to another, sharing their discovery with other members of the commission investigating Wallenberg's fate.
That was a mistake, the archivist implied, saying the KGB officers on the panel reacted quickly, warning authorities, and Prokopenko was immediately ordered to bar the researchers' access to the files.
Prokopenko said he complied because he was working to open the archives to the public, taking advantage of Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev's liberal reforms, and realized that open disobedience would lead to his immediate ouster. "I had to make a sacrifice for the sake of uncovering numerous other secrets of the archive," Prokopenko said.
The Swedish government declassified parts of the memo after Prokopenko mentioned the KGB interference in a 1997 article in a Russian newspaper, but it didn't become publicly known until Berger obtained it this month.
Birstein and Berger, who are based in the U.S., said that though they and other researchers have been granted access to study some Wallenberg files, important archive material has still not been made available.
"At the key junctures, the doors have remained closed," Berger said, noting that even the first piece of material that was handed over by the Russians in 1991, and was meant to illustrate a new openness on their side, turned out to be censored.
It concerned interrogation material suggesting that Wallenberg had been questioned six days after his alleged death. 16 Replies to Raoul Wallenberg - 64 years of lies | re: Raoul Wallenberg - 64 years of lies (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By NOZZLE Comments: 13631, member since Mon Mar 07, 2005On Wed Jan 18, 2012 08:41 AM
Oh those helpful hungarians, always there when you need them. | re: Raoul Wallenberg - 64 years of lies en>fr fr>en By martsy Comments: 2685, member since Mon May 19, 2003On Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:14 PM
I don't think the Hungarians had much to say then.
They got totally le fucked second time (the first was Trianon treaty) within just 20 years.
The Stalinist Soviet occupation, not much fun. | re: Raoul Wallenberg - 64 years of lies (karma: 3)
en>fr fr>en By geebart Comments: 6995, member since Fri Jun 16, 2006On Thu Jan 19, 2012 07:24 AM
Wallenberg eh? Is any supposed "holocaust hero" real? Considering the staggering amount of fraud we've seen, I don't think so. | re: Raoul Wallenberg - 64 years of lies (karma: 3)
en>fr fr>en By JFrum Comments: 1051, member since Sat Nov 19, 2011On Thu Jan 19, 2012 07:56 AM
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en>fr fr>en By Lord_Haw_Haw Comments: 9077, member since Sun Mar 07, 2010On Thu Jan 19, 2012 07:57 AM
geebart wrote:
Wallenberg eh? Is any supposed "holocaust hero" real? Considering the staggering amount of fraud we've seen, I don't think so.
He ended up in Israel I bet | re: Raoul Wallenberg - 64 years of lies (karma: 3)
en>fr fr>en By JFrum Comments: 1051, member since Sat Nov 19, 2011On Thu Jan 19, 2012 07:59 AM
 . | re: Raoul Wallenberg - 64 years of lies en>fr fr>en By NOZZLE Comments: 13631, member since Mon Mar 07, 2005On Thu Jan 19, 2012 09:41 AM
martsy wrote:
I don't think the Hungarians had much to say then. 
They got totally le fucked second time (the first was Trianon treaty) within just 20 years.
The Stalinist Soviet occupation, not much fun.
Well they could have said something or did something, but apparenty choose not to and actually participated in persecuting Jews and Orthodox Christians.
But what really says alot is that Wallenberg had to take it upon himself to get Jews out of Hungary, why was that, because they were safe there among their hungarian neighbors who stood up to the Nazis and then the Russians.
Keep something in mind, we almost got tossed out of Iraq by a bunch of rag pickers who were determined to thwart our presence. And of course there is our great success in Shitcanistan.
So what the fuck was the excuse of the hungarian filth, lack of motivation or did they really just like being part of the soviet system, | re: Raoul Wallenberg - 64 years of lies (karma: 5)
en>fr fr>en By Lysy Comments: 2750, member since Sun Jun 01, 2003On Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:10 PM
Edited by Lysy (65987) on 2012-01-19 22:12:55
JFrum wrote:
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Holocaust was not a myth but.... it was neither FIRST nor WORST in the XX-th century.
FIRST was an Armenian and Greek Genocide of 1915-1921 committed by iSSlamofascist Turks. 1.5mil of Armenians and 120 000 Greeks dead...
WORST was an Great Famine of 1932-1933 committed by communists. 6-10mil of mainly Ukrainians were starved to death in then name of 'hopen'-change'...
The only difference is that Jewish Holocaust is drilled day-in, day-out while almost NOBODY knows anything about Armenian Genocide nor Great Famine and both are deemed 'controversial'... Why ? Because not like kraut-nazis, the commies and iSSlamofascists are still protected species !!
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en>fr fr>en By tozer Comments: 16339, member since Wed Nov 19, 2003On Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:51 PM
Edited by tozer (73717) on 2012-01-19 23:53:52
'Previously hidden mass graves found at Treblinka'
By JPOST.COM STAFF
01/19/2012 02:53
Forensic archeologist uncovers human remains using ground-penetrating radar in order to respect Jewish law, 'Daily Mail' reports.
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New evidence has been uncovered helping prove that the World War II Nazi Treblinka was in fact a death camp, and not just a transit camp. Mass graves at the site of the camp were uncovered by British forensic archeologist Caroline Sturdy Colls, who used ground-penetrating radar to search for human remains, The Daily Mail reported on Wednesday.
The search for graves at the camp has been complicated in the past by Jewish law, which forbids disturbing graves. By using the radar, however, Colls managed to locate a large number of human remains buried in mass graves.
A lack of wealth physical evidence of mass extermination at Treblinka has in the past been used by Holocaust deniers, something researchers hope the new findings will make more difficult.
Colls's research and findings will be presented in the near future as part of a documentary, 'The Hidden Graves of the Holocaust,' broadcast by the UK's Radio 4.
The Nazis killed well over 800,000 Jews at the death camp in Poland.
How topical. I'm sure most of the "staggering" idiots on this thread don't even know Wallenberg was a goy.
By the way, there's no such thing as Jews. | re: Raoul Wallenberg - 64 years of lies en>fr fr>en By Chimere Comments: 3777, member since Thu Apr 08, 2004On Fri Jan 20, 2012 02:10 AM
The Ottoman Turks as "islamo-fascists", really ?
Do you even KNOW what the CUP is ? | re: Raoul Wallenberg - 64 years of lies (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By geebart Comments: 6995, member since Fri Jun 16, 2006On Fri Jan 20, 2012 09:38 PM
tozer wrote:
'Previously hidden mass graves found at Treblinka'
By JPOST.COM STAFF
01/19/2012 02:53
Forensic archeologist uncovers human remains using ground-penetrating radar in order to respect Jewish law, 'Daily Mail' reports.
Talkbacks (17)
New evidence has been uncovered helping prove that the World War II Nazi Treblinka was in fact a death camp, and not just a transit camp. Mass graves at the site of the camp were uncovered by British forensic archeologist Caroline Sturdy Colls, who used ground-penetrating radar to search for human remains, The Daily Mail reported on Wednesday.
The search for graves at the camp has been complicated in the past by Jewish law, which forbids disturbing graves. By using the radar, however, Colls managed to locate a large number of human remains buried in mass graves.
A lack of wealth physical evidence of mass extermination at Treblinka has in the past been used by Holocaust deniers, something researchers hope the new findings will make more difficult.
Colls's research and findings will be presented in the near future as part of a documentary, 'The Hidden Graves of the Holocaust,' broadcast by the UK's Radio 4.
The Nazis killed well over 800,000 Jews at the death camp in Poland.
How topical. I'm sure most of the "staggering" idiots on this thread don't even know Wallenberg was a goy.
By the way, there's no such thing as Jews.
You don't get it. For anything, I demand the 100% truth. I find that is not the case, I consider all information suspect. It is a FACT even admitted by Israeli scholars, that the "lamp shades" "bars of soap" story is a complete hoax. What else is fake? Why did they have to revise the sign on Auschwitz THREE TIMES?? | |
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en>fr fr>en By Naipaul Comments: 4536, member since Fri Aug 26, 2005On Sat Jan 21, 2012 05:30 AM
Edited by Naipaul (77800) on 2012-01-21 05:58:46
Who cares about soap and lamps... what I know is that our civilised Kraut brothers (and their slightly less civilised Ukrainian minions) indiscriminately murdered 30 thousand people (Christians, as no Jews were left following Ghetto Uprising) in the vicinity of my high school alone in the first 7 days of Warsaw Uprising only, on direct orders from Himmler... in total, 200 thousand civilians were murdered by Germans in Warsaw in the hot days of August of 1944
what I know is Auschwitz was a labour camp, rather than an extermination camp... ever heard of Treblinka, or Sobibor? This is where nearly 200 thousand Warsaw Jews ended up, where they were immediately gassed upon arrival- and no one survived to tell the tale- bones from mass graves in the vicinity were still found decades after the war ended | re: Raoul Wallenberg - 64 years of lies (karma: 4)
en>fr fr>en By Naipaul Comments: 4536, member since Fri Aug 26, 2005On Sat Jan 21, 2012 05:41 AM
Actually, in the August of 44, more civilians were killed in Warsaw EVERY DAY, than perished in 9/11 attack
talk about German atrocities being a myth big time
thank you | re: Raoul Wallenberg - 64 years of lies en>fr fr>en By MadRusski Comments: 39005, member since Mon Aug 16, 2004On Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:41 AM
Holocaust was not a myth but.... it was neither FIRST nor WORST in the XX-th century.
FIRST was an Armenian and Greek Genocide of 1915-1921 committed by iSSlamofascist Turks. 1.5mil of Armenians and 120 000 Greeks dead...
WORST was an Great Famine of 1932-1933 committed by communists. 6-10mil of mainly Ukrainians were starved to death in then name of 'hopen'-change'...
I don't see any logic here. Jews and Gypsies were subjected to TOTAL EXTERMINATION (GENOCIDE). 6 out of 12 million Jews - men, women, and children perished. 50%. Don't have the Gypsy figures, probably worse.
In Armenian genocide only males of certain age were targeted. And nowhere close to the Holocaust figures.
In Ukraine there was no intention to exterminate Ukrainians as a nation. Only villages suffered, cities were doing just fine. It was the Stalin's war against peasantry. North Caucasus and Southern Russia (Kuban, Don) suffered the same fate. And again, the percentage does not come close to Holocaust's
Belorussians lost 25% of their population during WW2. But again there was never an intention to exterminate them all.
The only thing in XX century comparable to Holocaust is Rwandan genocide. | re: Raoul Wallenberg - 64 years of lies (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By geebart Comments: 6995, member since Fri Jun 16, 2006On Sat Jan 21, 2012 03:02 PM
With all that supposed holocausting going on, the Germans sure did a lousy job. They missed these three sub-human roaches. Every day that scum breaths is another day the world is made a shittier place. | re: Raoul Wallenberg - 64 years of lies en>fr fr>en By martsy Comments: 2685, member since Mon May 19, 2003On Sat Jan 21, 2012 03:36 PM
The only thing in XX century comparable to Holocaust is Rwandan genocide.
really?
Mao (PSYCHO NUMBER 1) murdered tens of millions, and Pol-Pot did whatever he could with his modest means, in much smaller country | ReplySendWatch
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