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S&P downgrades euro bailout fund from AAA - (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By Dewi_Sant Comments: 22884, member since Wed Jul 06, 2005
On Tue Jan 17, 2012 05:24 PM
S&P downgrades euro bailout fund from AAA; - Finnish Foreign Minister slams new fiscal pact as “unnecessary and harmful” - As expected S&P last night downgraded the EFSF, the eurozone’s bailout fund, from AAA to AA+. The move is likely to lead to higher borrowing costs for the fund which will feed through to higher rates on any loans it pays out, reducing its effectiveness. Both France and Germany have reiterated that the lending capacity of the EFSF remains intact. S&P said it could boost the EFSF’s rating if countries put up more loan guarantees.

Negotiations on the Greek voluntary restructuring continued to be deadlocked yesterday, with the private bondholders saying they may not return to the table tomorrow as scheduled unless further “clarification” was given on the level of interest rates to be charged on the new bonds. ECB President Mario Draghi said that the Greek debt sustainability analysis "needs to be clarified [to see] whether it's realistic." In the FT, Iannis Mourmouras, Greece’s Deputy Finance Minister, argues, “Austerity has not been the answer for Greeks. We cannot sustain it. This is the lesson of the last year. All in the eurozone should heed it.”

The FTD reports that discussions are taking place in the ECB Governing Council over how to deal with losses on the ECB’s holdings of Greek debt if the country defaults or undertakes a forced restructuring. Boersen-Zeitung reports that Bundesbank board member Carl-Ludwig Thiele has said that the ECB’s purchases of government bonds are illegal, marking the first time a member of the Bundesbank has questioned the legality of the purchases. The ECB’s former chief economist Juergen Stark has written a letter to his former employers critising their handling of the crisis.

Meanwhile, Finnish Foreign Minister Erkki Tuomioja has slammed the new European fiscal pact, saying “the whole compact is at best unnecessary and at worst harmful, and Finland has reason to oppose the whole treaty and at least remain outside it,” adding “the majority of [the Finnish] parliament has the same view as I do”.

Wolfgang Reitzle, CEO of the a large industrial and engineering firm, Linde Group, became the first head of a DAX listed company to publicly call for Germany to consider leaving the euro if efforts to impose fiscal discipline and reforms on indebted countries fail.
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18 Replies to S&P downgrades euro bailout fund from AAA -

re: S&P downgrades euro bailout fund from AAA - (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By LTKilling Comments: 7405, member since Sun Aug 14, 2005
On Tue Jan 17, 2012 05:26 PM
hey Dewi

erus un GILIPOLLAS!!!
re: S&P downgrades euro bailout fund from AAA - (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By Dewi_Sant Comments: 22884, member since Wed Jul 06, 2005
On Tue Jan 17, 2012 06:06 PM
LTKilling wrote:

hey Dewi

erus un GILIPOLLAS!!!


hey LtWanking

cont gwirion
re: S&P downgrades euro bailout fund from AAA - en>fr fr>en
By BurnParis Comments: 27300, member since Thu Mar 13, 2003
On Tue Jan 17, 2012 06:14 PM
Edited by BurnParis (59538) on 2012-01-17 18:37:37
Dewi,.. you're going to find that downgrade news was very popular 6 months ago,.. but now, its like the euros don't want to talk about it.
re: S&P downgrades euro bailout fund from AAA - (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By Dewi_Sant Comments: 22884, member since Wed Jul 06, 2005
On Tue Jan 17, 2012 06:56 PM
LTKilling wrote:

hey Dewi

erus un GILIPOLLAS!!!


yer cunt you cannot even spell it properly

did you mean - eres un GILIPOLLAS - You're an asshole
re: S&P downgrades euro bailout fund from AAA - (karma: 3)  en>fr fr>en
By Hadrian Comments: 11164, member since Fri Jun 03, 2005
On Tue Jan 17, 2012 07:05 PM
Gotta feel bad for this retard, Dewi.

His English sucks and his Spanish is worse.

Can you imagine being illiterate in not only one but two languages?
re: S&P downgrades euro bailout fund from AAA - (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By Dewi_Sant Comments: 22884, member since Wed Jul 06, 2005
On Tue Jan 17, 2012 07:08 PM
sad innit :D
re: S&P downgrades euro bailout fund from AAA - (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By simplefrench Comments: 63960, member since Wed Mar 19, 2003
On Tue Jan 17, 2012 07:51 PM
dewi sant is a smelly welsh.
re: S&P downgrades euro bailout fund from AAA - (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By VAVD Comments: 2680, member since Wed Nov 25, 2009
On Tue Jan 17, 2012 07:56 PM
simplefrench wrote:

dewi sant is a smelly welsh.


And you are a retarded fRanch who reacts to soap like a vampire does to a crucifix.
re: S&P downgrades euro bailout fund from AAA - en>fr fr>en
By simplefrench Comments: 63960, member since Wed Mar 19, 2003
On Tue Jan 17, 2012 07:58 PM
and you are a stinking american.
re: S&P downgrades euro bailout fund from AAA - (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By VAVD Comments: 2680, member since Wed Nov 25, 2009
On Tue Jan 17, 2012 08:03 PM
simplefrench wrote:

and you are a stinking american.


And you are arguably the most stupid mammal I've ever met. I hope your life is nasty, cold, brutish and short. And, if the recent news is any indication, I'll soon be delighted to see that my wishes are granted.
re: S&P downgrades euro bailout fund from AAA - (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By BurnParis Comments: 27300, member since Thu Mar 13, 2003
On Tue Jan 17, 2012 08:19 PM
Damn,.. more down grades for the eu - who'd have thunk it?
re: S&P downgrades euro bailout fund from AAA - (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By Nappybonesapart Comments: 15573, member since Fri Aug 27, 2004
On Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:33 PM
and you are a stinking...


is a term of endearment in france meaning you have the correct mix of BO and garlic extract with the absence of soap
re: S&P downgrades euro bailout fund from AAA - en>fr fr>en
By Lord_Haw_Haw Comments: 9034, member since Sun Mar 07, 2010
On Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:37 PM
Hadrian wrote:

Gotta feel bad for this retard, Dewi.

His English sucks and his Spanish is worse.

Can you imagine being illiterate in not only one but two languages?


his national rugby team has been somewhat downgraded over the years LOL
re: S&P downgrades euro bailout fund from AAA - (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By Lord_Haw_Haw Comments: 9034, member since Sun Mar 07, 2010
On Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:40 PM
Dewi_Sant wrote:

LTKilling wrote:

hey Dewi

erus un GILIPOLLAS!!!


yer cunt you cannot even spell it properly

did you mean - eres un GILIPOLLAS - You're an asshole


You're getting on a bit, Dewi. It's catching up

re: S&P downgrades euro bailout fund from AAA - en>fr fr>en
By Dewi_Sant Comments: 22884, member since Wed Jul 06, 2005
On Wed Jan 18, 2012 02:45 AM
You're getting on a bit, Dewi. It's catching up

fuck off back over 2 your own shite hole and remove those images

tosser
re: S&P downgrades euro bailout fund from AAA - en>fr fr>en
By Lord_Haw_Haw Comments: 9034, member since Sun Mar 07, 2010
On Wed Jan 18, 2012 04:25 AM
Dewi_Sant wrote:

You're getting on a bit, Dewi. It's catching up

fuck off back over 2 your own shite hole and remove those images

tosser


Have you not contacted the mods?
re: S&P downgrades euro bailout fund from AAA - en>fr fr>en
By Dewi_Sant Comments: 22884, member since Wed Jul 06, 2005
On Wed Jan 18, 2012 03:21 PM
Lord_Haw_Haw wrote:

Dewi_Sant wrote:

You're getting on a bit, Dewi. It's catching up

fuck off back over 2 your own shite hole and remove those images

tosser


Have you not contacted the mods?



I contacted the supposed 'MAIN MOD' - but he is absolutely fucking useless
re: S&P downgrades euro bailout fund from AAA - en>fr fr>en
By Lord_Haw_Haw Comments: 9034, member since Sun Mar 07, 2010
On Wed Jan 18, 2012 03:46 PM
Dewi_Sant wrote:

Lord_Haw_Haw wrote:

Dewi_Sant wrote:

You're getting on a bit, Dewi. It's catching up

fuck off back over 2 your own shite hole and remove those images

tosser


Have you not contacted the mods?



I contacted the supposed 'MAIN MOD' - but he is absolutely fucking useless


he also may eb working. Remember time differences etc. Contact all mods for best results

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