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Born in the USA, Made in France: How McDonald's Succeeds in the Land of Michelin Stars (karma: 8)  en>fr fr>en
By FrogFryer Comments: 36303, member since Wed Apr 16, 2003
On Mon Jan 09, 2012 09:37 PM
France -- the land of haute cuisine, fine wine, and cheese -- would be the last place you would expect to find a thriving fast-food market. In a country known for its strong national identity and anti-globalization movement, it seems improbable that McDonald's (NYSE: MCD ) could have survived the onslaught of French social and political activism. In 1999, Jose Bove, an agricultural unionist, became a hero to anti-globalization supporters when he and his political group, Confederation Paysanne, bulldozed a McDonald's in Milau, France, to protest against U.S. trade restrictions on French dairy products. With bullhorn in hand, he declared to the television news cameras: "We attacked this McDonald's because it is a symbol of multinationals that want to stuff us with junk food and ruin our farmers." In 2004, amid the nutritional controversy sparked by Morgan Spurlock's documentary Supersize Me, McDonald's was declared in French media to be the epitome of malbouffe, or "junk food," and deemed partly to blame for the nation's rising obesity rate.

Born in the USA, Made in France: How McDonald's Succeeds in the Land of Michelin Stars


France -- the land of haute cuisine, fine wine, and cheese -- would be the last place you would expect to find a thriving fast-food market. In a country known for its strong national identity and anti-globalization movement, it seems improbable that McDonald's (NYSE: MCD ) could have survived the onslaught of French social and political activism. In 1999, Jose Bove, an agricultural unionist, became a hero to anti-globalization supporters when he and his political group, Confederation Paysanne, bulldozed a McDonald's in Milau, France, to protest against U.S. trade restrictions on French dairy products. With bullhorn in hand, he declared to the television news cameras: "We attacked this McDonald's because it is a symbol of multinationals that want to stuff us with junk food and ruin our farmers." In 2004, amid the nutritional controversy sparked by Morgan Spurlock's documentary Supersize Me, McDonald's was declared in French media to be the epitome of malbouffe, or "junk food," and deemed partly to blame for the nation's rising obesity rate.

Yet McDonald's, the world's largest fast-food corporation, with a global presence in 123 countries across all six inhabited continents, has turned the home of Le Cordon Bleu cooking academies and the Michelin Guide of world-renowned restaurants into its second-most profitable market in the world. The chain has more than 1,200 restaurants in France -- all locally owned franchises -- and a growth rate of 30 restaurants per year in the past five years alone. What is at the heart of this impressive growth that has stunned French observers and surprised business analysts? The three main reasons for McDonald's success are local responsiveness, rebranding, and a robust corporate ecosystem.

Local responsiveness

Burger King (NYSE: BKC ) -- arguably McDonald's largest competitor in the world -- entered the French market in 1981 but closed its 39 stores in 1997. Its strategy of directly transplanting the American restaurants, with no local adaptation, resulted in weak sales. A French hotel and restaurant journal remarked at the time of the brand's closing that "Burger King faced no significant handicap against its rivals McDonald's and Quick. Despite the three companies entering the French market around the same time, McDonald's has grown to 542 restaurants and Quick [to] 258." To put Burger King's failure into context, from 1983 to 1996, the French fast-food market grew by nearly 1,450 restaurants, and total market value increased fivefold. The different growth trajectory of McDonald's France is largely attributed to the age-old American adage, slightly refined:

The customer -- the French customer, to be exact -- is king. At every turn, the management of McDonald's France has been sensitive to the preferences of French consumers, both inside the restaurants and in their daily lives.

Since opening its first French restaurant in Strasbourg in 1979, McDonald's has sought to leverage the strength of the global conglomerate while tailoring its menu to the French palate. Although some elements of an international strategy were apparent in McDonald's French entry, overall the chain was not responding to local market needs and opportunities. Strasbourg was chosen as the initial location in order to leverage the brand recognition that already existed in Germany, while keeping the same restaurant decor and recipes for France. According to Nawfal Trabelsi, senior VP for McDonald's France and Southern Europe, "For the first 15 years, from 1980, what we did above all was offer people a slice of America." However, in 1995, McDonald's started using French cheeses such as chevre, cantal, and bleu, as well as whole-grain French mustard sauce. By changing the recipes in France, McDonald's started executing a multidomestic strategy and winning the hearts of French consumers.

McDonald's also demonstrated the power of understanding the cultural particularities of consumers across national boundaries. In France, barely 10% of meals are eaten outside the home, compared to nearly 40% in the U.S. and the U.K. Unlike their Anglo-Saxon counterparts, French consumers rarely snack between breakfast, lunch, and dinner. As a result, French meal times also last longer, and more food is consumed through multiple courses, creating unique opportunities and challenges for fast-food dining. McDonald's decided to capitalize on the opportunity. Rather than run promotions that encourage snacking, the company freed up valuable labor by installing electronic ordering kiosks, which are used by one out of every three customers in more than 800 of its restaurants. McDonald's has capitalized on the French cultural preference for longer meals by using surplus labor to provide table-side service, particularly in taking orders from lingering diners inclined to order an additional coffee or dessert item. Thanks to such initiatives, the average French consumer spends about US$15 per visit to McDonald's -- four times what their American counterparts spend.

Moreover, to solve the issue of empty tables during non-meal times, McDonald's introduced McCafe in France -- a range of high-end coffees and pastries available from a separate counter. McCafe pastries come from the Holder Group, a baking conglomerate that operates the popular Paul and luxury Laduree brand stores in France. According to McDonald's France Chief of Staff Alexis Lemoine, "I set up taste tests for my friends between McDonald's macaroons and those of Laduree, and almost no one can tell the difference." This unorthodox move from the most traditional purveyor of burgers and fries not only increased revenues by 5% -- by adding products with over 80% profit margins -- but also contributed to the embourgeoisement (gentrification) of the chain's image.

In August 2011, McDonald's announced that the McCafe would be taking on another ubiquitous French food icon: the baguette bread roll (which will also be supplied by the Holder group). By baking the baguettes in-house and offering them both as a breakfast item and in the form of baguette sandwiches, McDonald's is clearly making a play for the non-franchised "fast-food" segment currently occupied by the tens of thousands of bakeries across France. According to a 2009 study by French restaurant industry consulting firm Gira Conseil, the French consume nine times more traditional sandwiches than hamburgers, and more than 70% of all sandwiches consumed in France are made on baguettes. As McDonald's Trabelsi notes: "Today, we are part of French daily life. Our priority is to integrate locally while offering our traditional products. ... The French are passionate about bread and crazy about baguettes. We're gradually responding to a natural demand."
As a response to the growing trend for healthy eating in France, McDonald's introduced the McSalad. The new concept store, designed and implemented by McDonald's France as an all-salad restaurant, is the first of the company's 32,000-plus global restaurants where customers will not find any of the traditional burgers, fries, or shakes.

Situated in the heart of La Defense, Paris' massive corporate office park, the McSalad is targeted at the upscale clientele of the area's 200,000 daily business workers who can place their orders online from their desks to maximize their short lunch breaks. According to Elizabeth Rosenthal, a New York Times contributor and researcher on food trends, the French spent an average of 38 minutes per meal in 2005, down from an average of 82 minutes in 1978.

Fireplaces and flat-screen TVs

The second major success factor could be headlined "progressive marketing." Perhaps the most striking aspect about McDonald's restaurants in France is not found on the menu -- it is the restaurants themselves. McDonald's franchisees have invested heavily in their ambiance and spent approximately US$5 billion in renovations in less than a decade. The most noticeable innovation has been the refinement of the restaurant interiors to create a welcoming environment where customers linger -- a stark departure from the American restaurants' strategy to minimize customer visiting time and maximize purchasing turnover. Sleek, modern tables with plush, comfortable chairs and high-impact wall graphics are more reminiscent of Starbucks than a traditional fast-food chain. Outside, the store's visual profile and signage are so subdued as to be practically invisible to passers-by until customers are directly in front of the restaurant itself. This contrasts strongly with the chain's style of buildings in the U.S., where the lighted Golden Arches logo is hoisted high in the air in order to be seen from a distance.

Far from the homogenous design layouts throughout the U.S., French franchise owners have opted for tasteful, diverse, and regionally appropriate restaurants. McDonald's Alexis Lemoine notes that, even within Paris, restaurants varied tremendously according to target demographics. In 2005, free Wi-Fi was implemented in all McDonald's restaurants in France -- a move not followed by their U.S. compatriots until 2010.

This strategic shift in the fast-food business model has not gone unnoticed by other global subsidiaries. In September 2011, McDonald's Canada appeared to follow the French lead and announced its own $1 billion, 1,400-store overhaul. In explaining the decision to transform the traditional restaurant layout into sleek stone-and-wood interiors -- complete with free Wi-Fi, fireplaces, and flat-screen TVs -- McDonald's Canada CEO John Betts notes: "People tend to linger a little bit more in restaurants today. They want to enjoy their meals and take a break from the busy lifestyle that they lead. We think our restaurants today are certainly doing that a lot better than in the past."

In trying to appeal to the modern French restaurant goer, McDonald's has also pushed to publicize the "greening" of its image. In France, the Golden Arches are not surrounded by the familiar red background, but by a forest green color. Although initially controversial with the head U.S. office, this branding has already been followed by several of its European subsidiaries. Furthermore, McDonald's advertises that it aims to reduce gas emissions by more than 50% over the next 10 years and already recycles 7,000 tons of frying oil to be used as bio-diesel fuel. Steps have yet to be taken to recycle the many tons of paper and plastic produced in-store. Lemoine claims it has proved "too difficult," but it clearly seems a logical next step for the "green" company to take.

In line with the strategy of redefining its image, McDonald's reviewed its reputation for unhealthy food. Jean-Pierre Petit, the CEO of McDonald's France, put his decades of marketing skills to good use. Although not required, nutritional and caloric information were added to all food packaging. Other health-friendly features of McDonald's France include reducing salt on French fries, as well as fresh fruit packets (introduced in 2007) and "le Big Mac" with a whole-wheat-bun option. Although the lion's share of McDonald's revenue will continue to be burgers and fries, the company has taken steps to show that it is committed to healthy eating and using French fare.

Suppliers as partners

Perhaps the greatest strength of McDonald's France, in addition to its uncanny ability to predict French consumer preferences, is its ability to redefine the American model that has worked so well in the United States. McDonald's France has created an entire ecosystem that has been critical to its current success. After the Jose Bove bulldozer incident, McDonald's France introduced ad campaigns to tell customers more about itself, where it came from, what ingredients it used, and who it employed -- just how French it had actually become. It then strengthened ties to French agribusiness, advertising widely that 95% of the company's ingredients come from France, with the rest coming from the European Union.
McDonald's is today the No. 1 purchaser of beef in France.

"We know where every hamburger and chicken nugget came from," notes Lemoine. "We can trace them to the farm within one day." This also allowed for some advantages during the mid-1990s' "mad cow disease" panic (Bovine spongiform encephalopathy). "Our competitors had to cut out all beef production. We were so confident we knew our farms that we continued producing and gained market share."

Moreover, although McDonald's sources 95% of its produce in France, very few of its suppliers have formal contracts with the chain. Instead, they are seen as partners whose success is symbiotic to McDonald's. "McDonald's cannot afford to have supply issues preventing it from selling Big Macs," Lemoine says, "but the large capital investment that suppliers make to provide products makes them equally dependent on Big Mac sales -- creating a sort of interdependence between supplier and the restaurant."
Employees are supported through programs to give them particular qualifications, such as nationally recognized diplomas and certifications, and in turn, employees regularly have been found supporting McDonald's and protecting its brand on Internet forums and blogs.

McDonald's leverages its franchises and their proximity to customers by ensuring that 20 elected franchisee representatives vote on every marketing campaign and product launch before they are implemented. French doctors were consulted when discussing how to improve McDonald's nutritional content, and Greenpeace was engaged to discuss its environmental strategy.

In their book The Soul of the Corporation, Hamid Bouchikhi, a professor at ESSEC business school in France, and John Kimberly, a professor at Wharton, examine the challenge of both corporate and national identity in multinational corporations. Ask any French person the "nationality" of McDonald's, and he or she will most certainly say it is an American brand. However, 95% of all McDonald's France products are sourced from French farms. The company's management, employees, and franchisees are 100% French and operate nearly autonomously from the U.S. parent organization.

Its menu items, designed by French chefs and featuring regional specialties, such as Roquefort cheese sandwiches and Parisian macaroons, are found nowhere else in its global network of restaurants.

Can McDonald's France still be considered an "'American'" company? Can its unique French characteristics explain its success there? Although McDonald's France leverages the power of the global network -- contributing to, and benefiting from, the brand and innovation -- it has redefined itself as a French company that is constantly looking to adapt to the needs and preferences of the French culture.

This article was written by Lucy Fancourt, Bredesen Lewis, and Nicholas Majka, members of the Lauder Class of 2013.

50 Replies to Born in the USA, Made in France: How McDonald's Succeeds in the Land of Michelin Stars

re: Born in the USA, Made in France: How McDonald's Succeeds in the Land of Michelin Stars (karma: 5)  en>fr fr>en
By BurnParis Comments: 27315, member since Thu Mar 13, 2003
On Mon Jan 09, 2012 09:50 PM
Edited by BurnParis (59538) on 2012-01-09 21:59:25
It's like everything else "french" - they bluster about keeping their culture and "national pride",... but secretly, in the long run - they suck up American culture just like the rest of the planet. Face it, in the past 100 years, there has been one "global culture" and it’s AMERICAN.

That's what globalization is all about.

It's got nothing to do with "leveling the economic playing field", it has nothing to do with improving lives in third world shit-holes.
It has nothing to do with social equality.

It has everything to do with making the world follow our culture, and do away with their own.

You can't compete with the USA until you are LIKE the USA.

And yes,... it's working. Working well in fact. :D

Our music, our movies, our fashions, our overall culture, our technology - it invades and permeates ALL other cultures and in time chokes them out.

They have no choice,... their young will follow us,.. like it or not.
That's what scares them.
re: Born in the USA, Made in France: How McDonald's Succeeds in the Land of Michelin Stars (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By ohmygawd Comments: 9336, member since Mon Aug 28, 2006
On Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:08 PM
It's like reading the work of a monkey on sociology.
re: Born in the USA, Made in France: How McDonald's Succeeds in the Land of Michelin Stars (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By jeanv Comments: 17446, member since Sun Sep 11, 2005
On Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:10 PM
BurnParis wrote:

in the past 100 years, there has been one "global culture" and it’s AMERICAN.


Yes, yes, yes, ABBA and pizza, dim sums and Agatha Christie, Sartre and burritos, JK Rowlings and champagne all are American.


We all know that.


We made researches.

--
re: Born in the USA, Made in France: How McDonald's Succeeds in the Land of Michelin Stars (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By FrogFryer Comments: 36303, member since Wed Apr 16, 2003
On Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:12 PM
ohmygawd wrote:

It's like reading the work of a monkey on sociology.


its written by college kids what do you expect ?
re: Born in the USA, Made in France: How McDonald's Succeeds in the Land of Michelin Stars (karma: 3)  en>fr fr>en
By BurnParis Comments: 27315, member since Thu Mar 13, 2003
On Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:36 PM
Edited by BurnParis (59538) on 2012-01-09 22:58:50
jeanv wrote:

BurnParis wrote:

in the past 100 years, there has been one "global culture" and it’s AMERICAN.


Yes, yes, yes, ABBA and pizza, dim sums and Agatha Christie, Sartre and burritos, JK Rowlings and champagne all are American.


We all know that.


We made researches.

--


Come on Jean, You're smarter than that - You can sit and name individual instances of bullshit things, but they don't compare in the slightest to what we are really talking about.

You name one off nonsense, but put those things up to the following;

RagTime
Blues
R&B
Rock and Roll
Disco
Techno
Heavy Metal
Country
Folk
Jazz
Rap
Hip Hop -

Shit, that's just MUSIC,.. and I didn't mention classical because I know you euros get your panties in a bunch over that, but let's face it - you haven't produced a classical composer that can come close to the Gershwin brothers or guys like John Williams in the past century.

We wont even start to get into what the internet has done to effect cultural change around the planet.

Seriously,.. Abba? Agatha Christie?

Hell, even JK Rowlings wouldn't have gone a quarter as far as she did without Hollywood bringing her books to the big screen. Ignore it if you want, but you do it at your own peril.
re: Born in the USA, Made in France: How McDonald's Succeeds in the Land of Michelin Stars en>fr fr>en
By OldLyme Comments: 35701, member since Fri Jun 04, 2004
On Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:39 PM
re: Born in the USA, Made in France: How McDonald's Succeeds in the Land of Michelin Stars (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By breizheals Comments: 11997, member since Mon Jul 18, 2005
On Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:40 PM
ohmygawd wrote:

It's like reading the work of a monkey on sociology.


BP is right about one thing though. Those people in the academic circles who study (understand "criticize") "globalization" are driven by sheer anti-americanism. To be totally fair, the reasons for their hatred are sometimes legitimate.
re: Born in the USA, Made in France: How McDonald's Succeeds in the Land of Michelin Stars (karma: 5)  en>fr fr>en
By Hadrian Comments: 11172, member since Fri Jun 03, 2005
On Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:42 PM
Edited by Hadrian (77020) on 2012-01-09 22:44:42
BurnParis wrote:

Come on Jean, You're smarter than that


Actually no, he's not. The guy is a fucking burn out.

The ugly, shitty police state, the vegetarian / soy diet, and the poisoned gook air have totally fried his mind.

He's one of the worst posters to read here.

JeanVer - Singapore's LTKilling.

BurnParis wrote:

Seriously,.. Abba? Agatha Christie?


Yup.

He's serious.

He's also completely insane.
re: Born in the USA, Made in France: How McDonald's Succeeds in the Land of Michelin Stars (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By BurnParis Comments: 27315, member since Thu Mar 13, 2003
On Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:46 PM
K on the recharge Hadrian
re: Born in the USA, Made in France: How McDonald's Succeeds in the Land of Michelin Stars (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By Johnny_Ola Comments: 8274, member since Sat Apr 28, 2007
On Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:53 PM
jeanv wrote:

Yes, yes, yes, ABBA and pizza, dim sums and Agatha Christie, Sartre and burritos, JK Rowlings and champagne all are American.


We all know that.
It is known.


We made researches.

--


Fixed it for ya, Nubee.
re: Born in the USA, Made in France: How McDonald's Succeeds in the Land of Michelin Stars (karma: 3)  en>fr fr>en
By FrogFryer Comments: 36303, member since Wed Apr 16, 2003
On Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:58 PM
Edited by FrogFryer (63085) on 2012-01-09 22:59:43
BurnParis wrote:

jeanv wrote:

BurnParis wrote:

in the past 100 years, there has been one "global culture" and it’s AMERICAN.


Yes, yes, yes, ABBA and pizza, dim sums and Agatha Christie, Sartre and burritos, JK Rowlings and champagne all are American.


We all know that.


We made researches.

--


Come on Jean, You're smarter than that - You can sit and name individual instances of bullshit things, but they don't compare in the slightest to what we are really talking about.

You name one off nonsense, but put those things up to the following;

RagTime
Blues
R&B
Rock and Roll
Heavy Metal
Country
Folk
Jazz
Rap
Hip Hop -

Shit, that's just MUSIC,.. and I didn't mention classical because I know you euros get your panties in a bunch over that, but let's face it - you haven't produced a classical composer that can come close to the Gershwin brothers or guys like John Williams in the past century.

We wont even start to get into what the internet has done to effect cultural change around the planet.

Seriously,.. Abba? Agatha Christie?

Hell, even JK Rowlings wouldn't have gone a quarter as far as she did without Hollywood bringing her books to the big screen. Ignore it if you want, but you do it at your own peril.





Come on Jean, You're smarter than that


no hes not

they're very touchy over the American cultural hegemony

the poor little irrelevant dears

but you're exactly right on your first post bp .the french embraced Yankee ingenuity with mcdos and they dont even see it.

they're so xenophobic and touchy over it they find they even need to enact laws to protect the dying language



IM going to bed

you guys slug it out


yikes!

hey weren't they one of the biggest contributors to gdp from whatever frozen European shit hole they were from ?

i remember hearing that somewhere....... a long time ago
on a suicidal tundra far far away



good night

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re: Born in the USA, Made in France: How McDonald's Succeeds in the Land of Michelin Stars (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By JFrum Comments: 1025, member since Sat Nov 19, 2011
On Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:06 PM



In yer face frogs
re: Born in the USA, Made in France: How McDonald's Succeeds in the Land of Michelin Stars en>fr fr>en
By jeanv Comments: 17446, member since Sun Sep 11, 2005
On Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:14 PM
Edited by jeanv (78002) on 2012-01-09 23:18:18
Hadrian wrote:

the poisoned gook air have totally fried his mind.

He's serious. He's also completely insane.


Poisoned gook air? On a small island constantly swept by winds coming mostly from the high seas?


You're batshit crazy, payaso.






PS: there is an exception: the days when farmers in Sumatra burn their fields and the wind comes from the SW, creating what is called 'the haze'.

--
re: Born in the USA, Made in France: How McDonald's Succeeds in the Land of Michelin Stars en>fr fr>en
By LTKilling Comments: 7418, member since Sun Aug 14, 2005
On Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:16 PM
Edited by LTKilling (77700) on 2012-01-09 23:17:14
Vive LA France

the McDonald of FRANCE was the one that invented the McCafe

AWESOME, never knew that plus the food there is made with French grown products so you know the quality is way better than the shit in the US, THEY EVEN HAVE NIGGERS AS THE SERVERS LIKE IN AMERICA, KEEP THE NIGGERS DOWN AHAHA

LONG LIVE ABBA faggots



"young and sweet only 17"

AWESOME SONG
re: Born in the USA, Made in France: How McDonald's Succeeds in the Land of Michelin Stars (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By Johnny_Ola Comments: 8274, member since Sat Apr 28, 2007
On Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:29 AM
LTKilling wrote:

Vive LA France

the McDonald of FRANCE was the one that invented the McCafe

AWESOME, never knew that plus the food there is made with French grown products so you know the quality is way better than the shit in the US, THEY EVEN HAVE NIGGERS AS THE SERVERS LIKE IN AMERICA, KEEP THE NIGGERS DOWN AHAHA

LONG LIVE ABBA faggots



"young and sweet only 17"

AWESOME SONG


ABBA and the Bee Gees get a lot of shit, but they are both incredibly talented pop bands. Find me anyone who can harmonize like them today. ABBA gets extra points for not even singing in their native language. Beats the shit out of hip hop anyway.







re: Born in the USA, Made in France: How McDonald's Succeeds in the Land of Michelin Stars en>fr fr>en
By GhostDivision Comments: 3584, member since Thu Feb 09, 2006
On Tue Jan 10, 2012 01:12 AM
The Eagles still harmonize pretty damn well. Flance has nothing comparable to them.
re: Born in the USA, Made in France: How McDonald's Succeeds in the Land of Michelin Stars (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By malbarre Comments: 24046, member since Wed Aug 24, 2005
On Tue Jan 10, 2012 04:09 AM
Poor niggers food. And there are some poor niggers in France today. This said, they are very good tirailleurs and excellent cannon fodders. The boches don't like them because of their coupe-coupe.

But I prefer the good ol' French Banania.

Image hotlink - 'http://yunaflorie.y.u.pic.centerblog.net/a25d0e6y.jpg'

French Niggers, don't go at McDo! Eat Banania!
re: Born in the USA, Made in France: How McDonald's Succeeds in the Land of Michelin Stars en>fr fr>en
By EuropeIsOurs Comments: 1061, member since Wed Jul 15, 2009
On Tue Jan 10, 2012 06:06 AM
Edited by EuropeIsOurs (82241) on 2012-01-10 06:09:13
BurnParis wrote:

It's like everything else "french" - they bluster about keeping their culture and "national pride",... but secretly, in the long run - they suck up American culture just like the rest of the planet. Face it, in the past 100 years, there has been one "global culture" and it’s AMERICAN.

That's what globalization is all about.

It's got nothing to do with "leveling the economic playing field", it has nothing to do with improving lives in third world shit-holes.
It has nothing to do with social equality.

It has everything to do with making the world follow our culture, and do away with their own.

You can't compete with the USA until you are LIKE the USA.

And yes,... it's working. Working well in fact. :D

Our music, our movies, our fashions, our overall culture, our technology - it invades and permeates ALL other cultures and in time chokes them out.

They have no choice,... their young will follow us,.. like it or not.
That's what scares them.



It is true, the only "global" culture the world has ever known is the US culture. And anyway, it's always a pleasure for me to listen my Pantera's album, I wear nike, I watch some good old american movies from Kubrick to the masterpiece of Walter Hill, Southern Comfort...and I like Coca-Cola.

But, it's not a problem for you, to see that you're "global" culture is represented by McDonalds, niggers singing raps, gay series about young white fags dancing in their school, etc...I mean...nowadays when you think about USA, you think about that:

Image hotlink - 'http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/HighSchoolMusical.jpg'

Image hotlink - 'http://shakingmydamnhead.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/gangsta-fail-02-e1295478352486.jpg'

Image hotlink - 'http://www.celebritydietdoctor.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/weight-watchers-teams-up-with-mcdonalds.jpg'

But to impose those shit on all the Western World make you proud?

It's a serious question.
re: Born in the USA, Made in France: How McDonald's Succeeds in the Land of Michelin Stars (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By BurnParis Comments: 27315, member since Thu Mar 13, 2003
On Tue Jan 10, 2012 06:14 AM
EuropeIsOurs wrote:

It is true, the only "global" culture the world has ever known is the US culture.

But, it's not a problem for you, to see that you're "global" culture is represented by McDonalds, niggers singing raps, gay series about young white fags dancing in their school, etc...I mean...nowadays when you think about USA, you think about that:

Image hotlink - 'http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/HighSchoolMusical.jpg'

Image hotlink - 'http://shakingmydamnhead.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/gangsta-fail-02-e1295478352486.jpg'

Image hotlink - 'http://www.celebritydietdoctor.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/weight-watchers-teams-up-with-mcdonalds.jpg'

But to impose those shit on all the Western World make you proud?

It's a serious question.



You see - you're missing the point here - the USA has a lot to offer from a cultural stand point (as I mentioned above) - however, the "shit" you listed is the "SHIT" you and others around the planet choose to embrace. Mind you, its not totally your fault,... it largely falls on your governments and media. They have always tried to limit the cultural influence that the USA has had, by offering up the worst of our culture to you idiots, as if that was the only thing there was - yet it backfired on them. Instead of rejecting it like they had hoped for, you embraced it anyway.

As for being "proud" about it - I'm neither proud or ashamed about the cultural influence the USA wields over the world. Its necessary. It's about control. And,.... it works.
re: Born in the USA, Made in France: How McDonald's Succeeds in the Land of Michelin Stars en>fr fr>en
By korbach Comments: 17591, member since Fri Jul 02, 2004
On Tue Jan 10, 2012 06:20 AM
It's like everything else "french" - they bluster about keeping their culture and "national pride",... but secretly, in the long run - they suck up American culture just like the rest of the planet. Face it, in the past 100 years, there has been one "global culture" and it’s AMERICAN.


How do you explain that so many people speak ENGLISH instead of American ? B.t.W, there is nothing like the American language.
No proper language, not peculiar culture :), q.e.d.
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By EuropeIsOurs Comments: 1061, member since Wed Jul 15, 2009
On Tue Jan 10, 2012 06:24 AM
Edited by EuropeIsOurs (82241) on 2012-01-10 06:24:41
You see - you're missing the point here - the USA has a lot to offer from a cultural stand point (as I mentioned above) - however, the "shit" you listed is the "SHIT" you and others around the planet choose to embrace. Mind you, its not totally your fault,... it largely falls on your governments and media. They have always tried to limit the cultural influence that the USA has had, by offering up the worst of our culture to you idiots, as if that was the only thing there was - yet it backfired on them. Instead of rejecting it like they had hoped for, you embraced it anyway.

As for being "proud" about it - I'm neither proud or ashamed about the cultural influence the USA wields over the world. Its necessary. It's about control. And,.... it works.



I never chose to embrace it, as I said, I'm adult enough to choose what I like from the US culture, and I live far enough from the big cities to avoid those "shit".
And please, don't tell me that americans kids are not forced to embrace that shit because of your own media too.

Yeah it's about control, but some decades ago USA was able to bring it's culture everywhere, to keeps its control, but this culture was a cut above those shit you (and we) have nowadays.
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By BurnParis Comments: 27315, member since Thu Mar 13, 2003
On Tue Jan 10, 2012 06:27 AM
I mean seriously "EuropeIsOurs", (that name is hilarious by the way, especially in light of the context of this thread).

Think about how the USA had REALLY influenced the way you think, work, and live.

Radio, TV, Cell Phones (smart phones), internet, PC's, video games, music, (tape, records, cd's DVDs, MP3's,.. etc..)

Fashion, the design of your cars, medical advancements, the list just goes on, and on.

JeanV mentioned "ABBA" and "Agatha Christie" - You ask a kid today to name 3 songs by ABBA or who "Agatha Christie" is - and you'd be lucky to hit at 50% even having a clue. Ask them the same thing about Elvis Presley (who's been dead 35 years) and you'll probably do a lot better - ask them about "Snoop Dog" and they will likely give you a whole fucking list.

This isn't the USA's doing. You choose this for yourselves.
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By BurnParis Comments: 27315, member since Thu Mar 13, 2003
On Tue Jan 10, 2012 06:38 AM
EuropeIsOurs wrote:

And please, don't tell me that americans kids are not forced to embrace that shit because of your own media too.


I have a teenage son, he watches very little TV (Mostly shows like "Criminal Minds" CSI, Bones,.. etc.

His choice in music is contemporary "pop" with some classic rock thrown in and some older folk music - he hates rap and hip hop. Turns the shit off if it comes on the radio or TV.

He reads on average 50 to 70 novels a year, and has a pretty extensive library of "favorite" books (Like "The Iliad" and "The Odyssey")

So to answer your question - No, not all American kids are "forced to embrace that shit because of the media". Give them something more interesting and they will shut the "Shit" off.
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By EuropeIsOurs Comments: 1061, member since Wed Jul 15, 2009
On Tue Jan 10, 2012 06:43 AM
BurnParis wrote:

I mean seriously "EuropeIsOurs", (that name is hilarious by the way, especially in light of the context of this thread).

Think about how the USA had REALLY influenced the way you think, work, and live.

Radio, TV, Cell Phones (smart phones), internet, PC's, video games, music, (tape, records, cd's DVDs, MP3's,.. etc..)

Fashion, the design of your cars, medical advancements, the list just goes on, and on.

JeanV mentioned "ABBA" and "Agatha Christie" - You ask a kid today to name 3 songs by ABBA or who "Agatha Christie" is - and you'd be lucky to hit at 50% even having a clue. Ask them the same thing about Elvis Presley (who's been dead 35 years) and you'll probably do a lot better - ask them about "Snoop Dog" and they will likely give you a whole fucking list.

This isn't the USA's doing. You choose this for yourselves.


But I never said the contrary, the world knows today, and for decades, the globalisation of the US culture, Europe particularly, and it's something we have never seen before. Everybody will agree with that.

But for me the fashion, the medical advancements, etc... exist of course, but this the hidden aspect of the problem, the "visible tip of the iceberg" is represented by all those shit, and this is what most of the people see. As an american, I would consider it as a problem considering the image of my country those things are reflecting.
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