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French credit downgrade could come 'within days' (karma: 4)  en>fr fr>en
By VAVD Comments: 2580, member since Wed Nov 25, 2009
On Sun Dec 18, 2011 04:38 AM
Run to your banks, stinkies. Run like a French soldier in 1940. The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse are about to hold a rodeo in France.

France could be stripped of its triple-A credit rating before Christmas, raising new doubts about the survival of the euro, analysts have predicted.

Standard & Poor's – one of the three top rating agencies – is expected to cut France's rating within days, in a move that would weaken its ability to raise funds on financial markets.

The move would raise doubts over the future of the single currency at a time when questions abound as to whether the deal thrashed out in Brussels represents the breakthrough hoped for in advance of the summit. Andrew Tyrie, chairman of the Commons Treasury select committee, raised the spectre of Greece leaving the eurozone, saying it was unlikely Athens could afford to pay its way if it stayed in the zone. "Few people believe that Greece can remain solvent within the eurozone," he said. "Should Greece have to leave, the recapitalisation of a number of continental banks would be necessary."

David Cameron and George Osborne have stressed that their top priority is for the eurozone to survive the crisis because the consequences of a disorderly breakup would be devastating for the UK as well as the European economies. However, most Tory MPs now doubt that it can survive in its current form. Bill Cash, the veteran Eurosceptic MP, said: "The entire European Union project is unravelling as the euro itself unravels."

The imminence of a ratings decision by S&P may explain why France has sought to deflect attention by lashing out against Britain, claiming the UK's financial position is weaker than its own. Last week the Bank of France suggested the credit rating agencies train their fire on London, even though there seems no imminent danger of Britain losing its premier rating.

After days of angry exchanges between Paris and London, both sides called for a ceasefire. A senior British diplomatic source said: "I hope all this calms down soon, as it is not in anyone's interest for it to continue. That, I believe, is why the French prime minister called Nick Clegg on Friday afternoon [to build bridges]."

The diplomat added: "We can only guess that what's behind it is that they're so nervous about losing the triple-A rating, nervous not just for political and economic reasons, but because there's an election coming up."

Analysts said that if France's rating was slashed its borrowing costs would rise, making it more expensive for Paris to refinance its debt burden in the new year. A downgrade would also hit France's ability to contribute to the European financial stability facility, set up by members of the eurozone to combat the eurozone's sovereign debt crisis, and provide emergency funding. Traders in London said the price France has to pay to borrow has already risen, indicating that markets have partially discounted the possibility of a lower credit rating.

France has to pay more to borrow relative to fellow triple-A rated Germany: when France borrows over 10 years it pays an interest rate that is at least a percentage point higher than what Berlin pays.

One analyst said: "The overall perception is that French finances are weaker than Germany's and this imposes significant extra costs on France."

Adding together repayments of existing debt, interest owed and new borrowing, France needs to find €400bn (£335bn) next year just to stay afloat. An extra 1% would cost French taxpayers €4bn a year. European leaders are under pressure to boost the firepower of the EU's multibillion bailout package after Belgium's credit rating was cut by Moody's, another of the top three ratings agencies. Moody's warned that indebted eurozone countries such as Belgium would find it increasingly hard to fund their debts or achieve economic growth in the face of Europe's austerity drive. "The fragility of the sovereign debt markets is increasingly entrenched and unlikely to be reversed in the near future," warned Moody's.

Rival ratings agency Fitch said it could cut Belgium's credit rating, along with those of Spain, Italy, Slovenia, Cyprus and Ireland. Fitch kept France's AAA credit rating intact, although it revised its outlook for the country down to "negative".

21 Replies to French credit downgrade could come 'within days'

re: French credit downgrade could come 'within days' (karma: 5)  en>fr fr>en
By jerrylewissux Comments: 18735, member since Sun Mar 09, 2003
On Sun Dec 18, 2011 05:39 AM
France could be stripped of its triple-A credit rating before Christmas, raising new doubts about the survival of the euro, analysts have predicted.


Image hotlink - 'http://www.fuckfrance.com/images/i992/171157.509atlunitic.jpg'
re: French credit downgrade could come 'within days' (karma: 3)  en>fr fr>en
By letarsier59member has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 10655, member since Thu Jan 20, 2005
On Sun Dec 18, 2011 05:44 AM
Were not we supposed to lose it in november ?

www.fuckfrance.com . . .
re: French credit downgrade could come 'within days' (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By malbarre Comments: 23768, member since Wed Aug 24, 2005
On Sun Dec 18, 2011 06:11 AM
letarsier59 wrote:

Were not we supposed to lose it in november ?

www.fuckfrance.com . . .

We'll lose it. But USA lost it in august. Or july. I don't remember.
re: French credit downgrade could come 'within days' (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By ArthurH Comments: 18662, member since Thu Oct 17, 2002
On Sun Dec 18, 2011 06:16 AM
malbarre wrote:

But USA lost it


They never had any anyway, ball less airheads the lot 'o them !! :(
re: French credit downgrade could come 'within days' (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By TheMadPoetmember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 34736, member since Mon Nov 07, 2005
On Sun Dec 18, 2011 08:54 AM
malbarre wrote:

letarsier59 wrote:

Were not we supposed to lose it in november ?

www.fuckfrance.com . . .

We'll lose it. But USA lost it in august. Or july. I don't remember.


So what is your excuse?

You have white people watching your money.
re: French credit downgrade could come 'within days' (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By BurnParis Comments: 26842, member since Thu Mar 13, 2003
On Sun Dec 18, 2011 09:07 AM
Edited by BurnParis (59538) on 2011-12-18 09:10:17
malbarre wrote:

We'll lose it. But USA lost it in august. Or july. I don't remember.


The true question here is - Who will take the worse damage by the down grade?

I think you already know that answer.

(Remember S&P downgraded the USA from AAA to AA+ based on a $2 Trillion error in their calculations, and they admitted that. The downgrades in the EU are not "mistakes",.. they're well deserved.)
re: French credit downgrade could come 'within days' en>fr fr>en
By simplefrench Comments: 63815, member since Wed Mar 19, 2003
On Sun Dec 18, 2011 09:22 AM
i told you it vavd.
re: French credit downgrade could come 'within days' (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By flupkemember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 8095, member since Sun Jun 12, 2005
On Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:14 AM
Vavd is simply jealous of not being french. He's a gay moustachu. Often funny, but very frustrated. A gay moustachu, I tell you.
re: French credit downgrade could come 'within days' (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By VAVD Comments: 2580, member since Wed Nov 25, 2009
On Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:18 AM
Flupke calling someone gay, lol. That's like Fredmasse calling someone stupid.
re: French credit downgrade could come 'within days' (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By flupkemember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 8095, member since Sun Jun 12, 2005
On Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:21 AM
Edited by flupke (77101) on 2011-12-18 11:23:49
Hey, GAY MOUSTACHU !!!
How doest it feel to have lost your triple A before us ?
Do you feel the pain in the ass coming from your own country ?
Mwahahah !
re: French credit downgrade could come 'within days' (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By simplefrench Comments: 63815, member since Wed Mar 19, 2003
On Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:24 AM
MOUSTACHU= man with mustache vavd
re: French credit downgrade could come 'within days' (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By BurnParis Comments: 26842, member since Thu Mar 13, 2003
On Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:26 AM
Calm down flupke,.. you know your landlord doesn't like you making a lot of noise

Image hotlink - 'http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/02/26/nyregion/boxman.480.jpg'
re: French credit downgrade could come 'within days' (karma: 3)  en>fr fr>en
By FrogFryer Comments: 35771, member since Wed Apr 16, 2003
On Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:27 AM
1 notch is priced in but uncertainy remains about a market reaction

2 notches will be a killer
re: French credit downgrade could come 'within days' (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By BurnParis Comments: 26842, member since Thu Mar 13, 2003
On Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:34 AM
Edited by BurnParis (59538) on 2011-12-18 11:36:47
flupke wrote:

How doest it feel to have lost your triple A before us ?
Do you feel the pain in the ass coming from your own country ?
Mwahahah !


Flupke,.. I'll repeat it just for you, cause you are really fucking stupid and slow,....

Who will take the worse damage by the down grade?

I think you already know that answer. (Well, not you flupke - because you're an idiot.)

(Remember S&P downgraded the USA from AAA to AA+ based on a $2 Trillion error in their calculations, and they admitted that. The downgrades in the EU are not "mistakes",.. they're well deserved.)


Keep in mind, the US was lowered from AAA to AA+ (one point) by S&P - and STILL has AAA with Fitch and Moody. EU countries (Like Belgium) are dropping MULTIPLE points, and by not only S&P, but Fitch and Moody as well,.... You guys are going to be feeling the pain in the ass coming from your own country Even more than you are already. Watch for it flupke!!! :D :D :D
re: French credit downgrade could come 'within days' en>fr fr>en
By VAVD Comments: 2580, member since Wed Nov 25, 2009
On Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:36 AM
There's no need for name-calling, Flupke.
re: French credit downgrade could come 'within days' en>fr fr>en
By flupkemember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 8095, member since Sun Jun 12, 2005
On Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:39 AM
BurnParis wrote:

flupke wrote:

How doest it feel to have lost your triple A before us ?
Do you feel the pain in the ass coming from your own country ?
Mwahahah !


Flupke,.. I'll repeat it just for you, cause you are really fucking stupid and slow,....

Who will take the worse damage by the down grade?

With Marine, we will get out from the hold up that's made, en partie, by the rating agencies. That's my word.

I think you already know that answer. (Well, not you flupke - because you're an idiot.)

(Remember S&P downgraded the USA from AAA to AA+ based on a $2 Trillion error in their calculations, and they admitted that. The downgrades in the EU are not "mistakes",.. they're well deserved.)


Keep in mind, the US was lowered from AAA to AA+ (one point) by S&P - and STILL has AAA with Fitch and Moody. EU countries (Like Belgium) are dropping MULTIPLE points, and by not only S&P, but Fitch and Moody as well,.... You guys are going to be feeling the pain in the ass coming from your own country
Even more than you are already. Watch for it flupke!!! :D :D :D
re: French credit downgrade could come 'within days' en>fr fr>en
By flupkemember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 8095, member since Sun Jun 12, 2005
On Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:43 AM
Edited by flupke (77101) on 2011-12-18 11:48:36
Edited by flupke (77101) on 2011-12-18 11:49:01
Regardez bien mon post précédent : ce n'est pas moi qui ai écrit cela. Ya des rigolos qui peuvent éditer mes messages. T'inquiètes, il se prépare un raz-de-marée pour Marine Le Pen qui nous rendra notre indépendance. Nous sortirons enfin petit à petit de la sphère d'influence des amerloches.
re: French credit downgrade could come 'within days' (karma: 3)  en>fr fr>en
By FrogFryer Comments: 35771, member since Wed Apr 16, 2003
On Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:46 AM
flupke wrote:

Ya des rigolos qui peuvent éditer mes messages. T'inquiètes, ici il se prépare un raz-de-marée pour Marine Le Pen qui nous rendra notre indépendance. Nous sortirons enfin de la sphère d'influence des amerlcohes.



watch out hes gone dead language
re: French credit downgrade could come 'within days' (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By VAVD Comments: 2580, member since Wed Nov 25, 2009
On Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:47 AM
flupke wrote:

Nous sortirons enfin de la sphère d'influence des amerlcohes.


It's not your decision, sock puppets. You'll do our bidding until you grow tiresome and we dismiss you like a servant.
re: French credit downgrade could come 'within days' (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By BurnParis Comments: 26842, member since Thu Mar 13, 2003
On Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:42 PM
France could be stripped of its triple-A credit rating before Christmas, raising new doubts about the survival of the euro, analysts have predicted.


Before Christmas? Hmmm

re: French credit downgrade could come 'within days' en>fr fr>en
By GhostDivision Comments: 3287, member since Thu Feb 09, 2006
On Mon Dec 19, 2011 01:26 AM
Edited by GhostDivision (79003) on 2011-12-19 01:29:27
Edited by GhostDivision (79003) on 2011-12-19 01:31:38
Flinch will soon abandon the z€ro in favor of Iraqi dinars as the next phase of Islamization of Stinkenreichistan.

Flinch speaking MuSS and niggers will riot in jubilation, Sarko will blame Netanyahu, increase the immigrants' monthly stipends, and reduce the workweek to 32 hours, as the rest of the country tries to figure out if the EU capital is in Walloonland or Straussturd this month. :D

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