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S&P ratings warning to top euro nations (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By VAVD Comments: 2516, member since Wed Nov 25, 2009
On Mon Dec 05, 2011 03:35 PM
Just a daily reminder for our European members that you're fucked. On a brighter note, Christmas and New Years are approaching, and I want to wish you all a happy holiday season, especially since it could quite possibly be your last.

Standard and Poor’s has warned Germany and the five other triple A members of the eurozone that they risk having their top-notch ratings downgraded as a result of deepening economic and political turmoil in the single currency bloc.

The US ratings agency is poised to announce later on Monday that it is putting Germany, France, the Netherlands, Austria, Finland, and Luxembourg on “creditwatch negative”, meaning there is a one-in-two chance of a downgrade within 90 days.

It warned all six governments that their ratings could be lowered to AA+ if the creditwatch review failed to convince its experts. Markets have been braced for a potential downgrade of France but few expected Germany’s top rating to be called into question.

With regard to Germany, S&P said it was worried about “the potential impact (...) of what we view as deepening political, financial, and monetary problems with the European economic and monetary union

27 Replies to S&P ratings warning to top euro nations

re: S&P ratings warning to top euro nations en>fr fr>en
By LaFranceBismember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 4870, member since Tue May 20, 2003
On Mon Dec 05, 2011 03:41 PM
Image hotlink - 'http://www.sonofthesouth.net/leefoundation/Antietam/dead-confederate-soldiers.jpg'

Happy holidays to you Yankee!!!
re: S&P ratings warning to top euro nations (karma: 3)  en>fr fr>en
By With_Attitude Comments: 9907, member since Fri Jul 08, 2005
On Mon Dec 05, 2011 03:46 PM



Tell me again, what is the glorious nation of holy christ of United States of Americon's rating?

Is it an AAA, an AAA+, or an AAA++?

I don't remember.

How did the guys who steal your money on a daily basis rate you?

It surely can't be less than any ZerOpeon nation?

Please help, I don't remember.




I wait for your insightful inputs.

Thanks for educating (and entertaining) me.
re: S&P ratings warning to top euro nations (karma: 4)  en>fr fr>en
By US_Kindergarden Comments: 553, member since Mon Mar 24, 2008
On Mon Dec 05, 2011 05:14 PM
Always funny to see a AA+ country saying that some AAA countries may be fucked one day or the other.
re: S&P ratings warning to top euro nations (karma: 5)  en>fr fr>en
By AltesEuropa Comments: 4492, member since Wed Feb 02, 2005
On Mon Dec 05, 2011 05:25 PM
Nice own goal, Voxie.

The US lost AAA exactly 4 months ago. We don't know yet if and when this is gonna happen at all to those Eurozone countries. Since we're "fucked" due to this uncertain outlook, and the US went over that top four months ago, for how long has the US already been fucked then?

Just asking.
re: S&P ratings warning to top euro nations (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By With_Attitude Comments: 9907, member since Fri Jul 08, 2005
On Mon Dec 05, 2011 05:36 PM
AltesEuropa wrote:

Nice own goal, Voxie.

The US lost AAA exactly 4 months ago. We don't know yet if and when this is gonna happen at all to those Eurozone countries. Since we're "fucked" due to this uncertain outlook, and the US went over that top four months ago, for how long has the US already been fucked then?

Just asking.


Another fail, dear.

The US will elect a new president.

A Republican one.

And everything will be all right.

Maybe a little war to entertain them all. That would be kind of them to keep all of those "veterans" alive and with a life-long pension.

My bet is on an attack on North Korea.

Halliburton needs cash, and oilfields'market is saturated.

We need a good old "vs communism war", as the "vs islam" war is depleted.

Maybe Iran, while you ask.

We'll see.
re: S&P ratings warning to top euro nations (karma: 4)  en>fr fr>en
By SevenSeventeen Comments: 13557, member since Tue Apr 22, 2003
On Mon Dec 05, 2011 05:47 PM



Meanwhile the staunch Euros break into tears at the mere mention of the 10 year bond rates.

And the USA has to bail your worthless asses out again by shoveling dollars into the IMF so the fraud of ECB not directly buying your worthless paper can continue for another week :(
re: S&P ratings warning to top euro nations en>fr fr>en
By With_Attitude Comments: 9907, member since Fri Jul 08, 2005
On Mon Dec 05, 2011 05:55 PM
Edited by With_Attitude (77355) on 2011-12-05 18:05:03
SevenSeventeen wrote:

Meanwhile the staunch Euros break into tears at the mere mention of the 10 year bond rates.

And the USA has to bail your worthless asses out again by shoveling dollars into the IMF so the fraud of ECB not directly buying your worthless paper can continue for another week :(


Once AGAIN, genius,

What is the rating fucking'O rate'O rating of the mighty US of A?

Answer: its rating is still way beyond the Italian One, which means waaaa y beyond those "7" world countries (all European) - with an AAA.

If you want your AAA back, just take it back.

Just try to think:
how much will it cost YOU to cash back all those "dollars"?
25 years? 30 years?

dumbarse.
re: S&P ratings warning to top euro nations en>fr fr>en
By simplefrench Comments: 63710, member since Wed Mar 19, 2003
On Mon Dec 05, 2011 06:01 PM
SevenSeventeen wrote:

Meanwhile the staunch Euros break into tears at the mere mention of the 10 year bond rates.

And the USA has to bail your worthless asses out again by shoveling dollars into the IMF so the fraud of ECB not directly buying your worthless paper can continue for another week :(



It is an italian minister crying due to harsh austerities measures.
About the ECB, it could change in 1 year perhaps.. It could buy the european debt.
re: S&P ratings warning to top euro nations (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By SevenSeventeen Comments: 13557, member since Tue Apr 22, 2003
On Mon Dec 05, 2011 06:09 PM



Oh dear :(

It's gotten so bad the Euros are even acting hetrosexually :O


simplefrench wrote:

SevenSeventeen wrote:

Meanwhile the staunch Euros break into tears at the mere mention of the 10 year bond rates.

And the USA has to bail your worthless asses out again by shoveling dollars into the IMF so the fraud of ECB not directly buying your worthless paper can continue for another week :(



It is an italian minister crying due to harsh austerities measures.
About the ECB, it could change in 1 year perhaps.. It could buy the european debt.



Harsh austerity - ROTFL - in 2016 :O

I don't recall the ECB in their charter can buy eurotrash bonds as a direct prop. That's why they've had to go to the IMF and ask for US taxpayer to send through the back door.

US dollars bought you a week. Let's see what the 10 year premium on WOP bonds look like after the downgrades :D
re: S&P ratings warning to top euro nations (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By With_Attitude Comments: 9907, member since Fri Jul 08, 2005
On Mon Dec 05, 2011 06:16 PM
SevenSeventeen wrote:




Harsh austerity - ROTFL - in 2016 :O

I don't recall the ECB in their charter can buy eurotrash bonds as a direct prop. That's why they've had to go to the IMF and ask for US taxpayer to send through the back door.

US dollars bought you a week. Let's see what the 10 year premium on WOP bonds look like after the downgrades :D




HEY! DUMBARSE
Get back to us when your AAA is back. (2016, 2017, 2020?)

Until then, keep dealing with your peers.

Greece is calling you for an advice.
re: S&P ratings warning to top euro nations (karma: 3)  en>fr fr>en
By SevenSeventeen Comments: 13557, member since Tue Apr 22, 2003
On Mon Dec 05, 2011 06:24 PM



Blow me Frog. Let's bookmark this page for Fwance's downgrade - this week :D
re: S&P ratings warning to top euro nations en>fr fr>en
By With_Attitude Comments: 9907, member since Fri Jul 08, 2005
On Mon Dec 05, 2011 06:34 PM
SevenSeventeen wrote:

Blow me Frog. Let's bookmark this page for Fwance's downgrade - this week :D


Bookmarked.

Btw,

When do you thing the mighty US of a will be downgraded AGAIN?
re: S&P ratings warning to top euro nations (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By tom25 Comments: 4630, member since Thu May 01, 2003
On Mon Dec 05, 2011 06:40 PM
LaFranceBis wrote:

Image hotlink - 'http://www.sonofthesouth.net/leefoundation/Antietam/dead-confederate-soldiers.jpg'

Happy holidays to you Yankee!!!


That picture are dead confederate soldiers. Not a yankee among them. God your dumb.
re: S&P ratings warning to top euro nations (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By luv2hate_em Comments: 11598, member since Tue Apr 08, 2003
On Mon Dec 05, 2011 06:44 PM
So what it appears is that the downgraded US rating is STILL worth
MORE than the AAA of all of europe.

If euro-cunts were so great why why why do you have to come to
us downgraded US dollars to save your asses? Hmmm? Hmm?
re: S&P ratings warning to top euro nations en>fr fr>en
By AltesEuropa Comments: 4492, member since Wed Feb 02, 2005
On Mon Dec 05, 2011 07:07 PM
Who saved whose asses with what kind of action?
re: S&P ratings warning to top euro nations (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By Lord_Haw_Haw Comments: 8609, member since Sun Mar 07, 2010
On Mon Dec 05, 2011 09:19 PM
re: S&P ratings warning to top euro nations en>fr fr>en
By US_Kindergarden Comments: 553, member since Mon Mar 24, 2008
On Wed Dec 07, 2011 09:05 PM
With_Attitude wrote:


My bet is on an attack on North Korea.



It is a well known fact that USA has neither the guts, neither the money, to attack North Korea.
re: S&P ratings warning to top euro nations (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By Uncle_Meat Comments: 22063, member since Sat Mar 15, 2003
On Wed Dec 07, 2011 09:08 PM
US_Kindergarden wrote:

With_Attitude wrote:


My bet is on an attack on North Korea.



It is a well known fact that USA has neither the guts, neither the money, to attack North Korea.


Don't worry. We'll give you Eurinals enough time to hide under your beds.
re: S&P ratings warning to top euro nations (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By faqufrance Comments: 6705, member since Wed Nov 17, 2004
On Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:55 PM
Edited by faqufrance (75517) on 2011-12-07 23:08:20
Edited by faqufrance (75517) on 2011-12-07 23:58:20



LMAO... you frogs are still trying to play the ratings downgrade card with us in the US? Just how ignorant are you? I have spelled it out to Wipes_Asses for a living already.

Tell me the impact that we have seen from the downgrade? Well? The POTENTIAL for increased borrowing costs.. so, dumbass, riddle me this fact, where is all of the money from the europeon nations going right now? As folks are closing out their euro's where are they investing? Uncle Sugar Bonds. The US has been inundated with folks who have wanted to buy our debt. It's driving the return rate incredibly low due to the shear volume of purchases.

So, chest pounding frogs... Care to share your recent bond spreads? I know, your fellow eu member Italy is over 7% I know greece is above that.. I know that france is at record highs - I know that it's also climbing for the last glimmer of hope, Germany.

So, let's talk about the impact of the ratings and who would be fucked again? Did I spell it out enough for you?

What I relish the most, is the chest pounding from you serfs, who stated that the eu and euro would overtake the dollar. That the eu had a future, that europeon socialism gives you all of the free stuff, cradle to grave and doesn't cost you a dime.

What is sad, is that in my lifetime, I will see the equvilant of sally strothers commercials to help the poor infidels of eurabia.

you're a bunch of eu-sful idiots


Please show me where smart money is flocking to the eu? anyone ? please tell me once you get a serious haircut and the ratings drop, how this will not be one of the last nails in the coffin of euro-socialism.

Your too blind to see it cause your a eu-sful idiot. The smart money has already picked the winner, yet again. AND, yet again, you guys have your hand out, looking for a bail out. Add to the scourge, the fact that radical islam is taking over europe.

I hope you are able to come thru this fiasco without a war and mass causalities. Some of you are bright enough to realize that you're screwed and your doing what you can. A lot of you are blinded by the 24x7 cradle to grave propaganda that has you thinking that there is no problem.

re: S&P ratings warning to top euro nations en>fr fr>en
By faqufrance Comments: 6705, member since Wed Nov 17, 2004
On Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:23 PM



LaFranceBis wrote:

Image hotlink - 'http://www.sonofthesouth.net/leefoundation/Antietam/dead-confederate-soldiers.jpg'

Happy holidays to you Yankee!!!


It's Pat! from SNL, The french dwarf. I cannot help but lmfao when ever I see your name. In all honesty, how tall are you? I know your supposedly sitting in a chair, but, you look all of 4 foot.
re: S&P ratings warning to top euro nations (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By GhostDivision Comments: 3198, member since Thu Feb 09, 2006
On Thu Dec 08, 2011 01:52 AM
Edited by GhostDivision (79003) on 2011-12-08 01:56:44
AltesEuropa wrote:

Nice own goal, Voxie.

The US lost AAA exactly 4 months ago. We don't know yet if and when this is gonna happen at all to those Eurozone countries. Since we're "fucked" due to this uncertain outlook, and the US went over that top four months ago, for how long has the US already been fucked then?

Just asking.


Altes, you'll be working until you're ninety to support hooligan Greek loafers like Niko_Alias.

Your Sturmabetilung jerk-circle pension will also be heavily taxed to pay for Flinch vacations on the Rivera for lazy wop idiots as well.

Enjoy your horse-meat steaks cooked on the campfire this winter after Uncle Vladi shuts down the gas pipeline.
re: S&P ratings warning to top euro nations en>fr fr>en
By ArthurH Comments: 18559, member since Thu Oct 17, 2002
On Thu Dec 08, 2011 03:09 AM
Edited by ArthurH (45185) on 2011-12-08 03:12:17
tom25 wrote:



That picture are dead confederate soldiers. Not a yankee among them. God your dumb.


Like if that was making any difference amongst you useless wankeestani swines AA- beggars living on chinese credit. We don't give a shit, the only good Amewican punks being the dead ones, north south east or west, black white yellow or pinkish (most of them)
re: S&P ratings warning to top euro nations en>fr fr>en
By mikgof Comments: 10086, member since Tue Feb 17, 2004
On Thu Dec 08, 2011 04:23 AM
faqufrance wrote:

LMAO... you frogs are still trying to play the ratings downgrade card with us in the US? Just how ignorant are you? I have spelled it out to Wipes_Asses for a living already.

Tell me the impact that we have seen from the downgrade? Well? The POTENTIAL for increased borrowing costs.. so, dumbass, riddle me this fact, where is all of the money from the europeon nations going right now? As folks are closing out their euro's where are they investing? Uncle Sugar Bonds. The US has been inundated with folks who have wanted to buy our debt. It's driving the return rate incredibly low due to the shear volume of purchases.

So, chest pounding frogs... Care to share your recent bond spreads? I know, your fellow eu member Italy is over 7% I know greece is above that.. I know that france is at record highs - I know that it's also climbing for the last glimmer of hope, Germany.

So, let's talk about the impact of the ratings and who would be fucked again? Did I spell it out enough for you?

What I relish the most, is the chest pounding from you serfs, who stated that the eu and euro would overtake the dollar. That the eu had a future, that europeon socialism gives you all of the free stuff, cradle to grave and doesn't cost you a dime.

What is sad, is that in my lifetime, I will see the equvilant of sally strothers commercials to help the poor infidels of eurabia.

you're a bunch of eu-sful idiots


Please show me where smart money is flocking to the eu? anyone ? please tell me once you get a serious haircut and the ratings drop, how this will not be one of the last nails in the coffin of euro-socialism.

Your too blind to see it cause your a eu-sful idiot. The smart money has already picked the winner, yet again. AND, yet again, you guys have your hand out, looking for a bail out. Add to the scourge, the fact that radical islam is taking over europe.

I hope you are able to come thru this fiasco without a war and mass causalities. Some of you are bright enough to realize that you're screwed and your doing what you can. A lot of you are blinded by the 24x7 cradle to grave propaganda that has you thinking that there is no problem.




You know what is must ridiculous about this situation? For 30 years Britain has pursued dumbed down moronic toy town economics; take away government spending financed by deficit spending; take away consumer spending funded by credit and Britain has had ZERO growth in 30 years. 30 years of gross incompetence and we still manage to borrow money at a lower rate than Germany.


For 30 years our economy and government finances have been run into the ground by morons, with it must be admitted, the connivance of the electorate, who will believe any bullshit just so long as the politicos shout loud and wrap themselves in the Union Jack. Germany on the other hand have worked hard and saved are screwed. Life really is unfair.


.
re: S&P ratings warning to top euro nations en>fr fr>en
By ArthurH Comments: 18559, member since Thu Oct 17, 2002
On Thu Dec 08, 2011 04:44 AM
Edited by ArthurH (45185) on 2011-12-08 05:09:04
But what is the UK these days besides the money laundering operation constituted by the city inc and tax heavens revolving doors ?
Not much !!

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